RE: [Zope] All Of My Zope 2.6 Transactions Since 2/6/07 Are Gone!

2007-04-02 Thread Mark, Jonathan (Integic)
I know of 2 situations where such things can happen unexpectedly:

Thanks for the assistance. I was able to recover using an XML data backup 
outside of Zope and move the missing content as flat files to the Apache 
document root on a new server. Since I have decided to abandon the old machine 
now I won't bother to investigate why the data disappeared. 

What is the lesson learned? That when you are using an old (2.6.2) version of 
Zope there is an increased likelihood of something bad happening. Presumably 
Zope 2 gets more stable with later versions. So use Yum to upgrade Zope 2 
regularly.
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Re: [Zope] All Of My Zope 2.6 Transactions Since 2/6/07 Are Gone!

2007-04-01 Thread Dieter Maurer
Mark, Jonathan (Integic) wrote at 2007-3-30 12:46 -0400:
Zope 2.6.2 on Red Hat 7.3 started acting flaky a week or two ago. It started 
dying every day or so. Then it lost all transactions since 2/6/07, displaying 
content as it was two months ago.

Then it recovered the lost content, now it has lost it again. Zope Undo shows 
incorrectly that there were no transactions between 2/6/07 and 3/28/07 when 
the data loss occurred.

Zope by itself cannot loose content:

  It stores data (by default) in a FileStorage and
  a FileStorage is a transaction log file.

  All modifications are additional transaction logs
  appended to the file.


If you see that the latest transactions are lost, then
someone else modified the storage.


I know of 2 situations where such things can happen unexpectedly:

 *  When you move or remove an open file under *nix, then
all processes that have this file open continue to
use it (even though it is now in a different place).

Any new process, however, may no longer see modifications
done after the move/remove (at least not at the original place).

 *  About 2 years ago, one of my disks started to die.
Linux gave me the impression that my work proceeds, just
a bit slow and with tons of disk problem reports.

The warning signals have been heavy enough. I made a complete
backup. That was very wise because after a Linux restart,
my work has been wiped out: Linux had been no longer able to store
my changes on disk. It had worked only in its buffers -- and after
the restart, the buffers were empty.



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Dieter
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[Zope] All Of My Zope 2.6 Transactions Since 2/6/07 Are Gone!

2007-03-30 Thread Mark, Jonathan (Integic)
Zope 2.6.2 on Red Hat 7.3 started acting flaky a week or two ago. It started 
dying every day or so. Then it lost all transactions since 2/6/07, displaying 
content as it was two months ago.

Then it recovered the lost content, now it has lost it again. Zope Undo shows 
incorrectly that there were no transactions between 2/6/07 and 3/28/07 when the 
data loss occurred.

What is the best approach to getting this data back?

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Re: [Zope] All Of My Zope 2.6 Transactions Since 2/6/07 Are Gone!

2007-03-30 Thread Dennis Allison

Have you checked the Data.fs to determine if it has been coddled?  How
large is the Data.fs?  Which version of Python are you using to run Zope?


On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Mark, Jonathan (Integic) wrote:

 Zope 2.6.2 on Red Hat 7.3 started acting flaky a week or two ago. It
 started dying every day or so. Then it lost all transactions since
 2/6/07, displaying content as it was two months ago.
 
 Then it recovered the lost content, now it has lost it again. Zope Undo
 shows incorrectly that there were no transactions between 2/6/07 and
 3/28/07 when the data loss occurred.
 
 What is the best approach to getting this data back?
 
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