Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?
Kevin Dangoor wrote: Or, how about a dtml-expr tag (which could even start out as a simple synonym for dtml-var) so that people won't be confused about what is python and what is a variable lookup with the special calling properties. This is a great idea :-) New Old--- dtml-var x dtml-var x dtml-var name="x" dtml-expr "x" dtml-var expr="x" dtml-var "x" cheers, Chris PS: didn't Paul Everitt comment on this in the Perl thread? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?
Paul Everitt wrote: Shorthand notations are convenient, but when they get inconsistent, you wind up with the other P language. :^) Woudl that be the one we're welcoming into the fold? ;-) Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?
I sent Brian a message on this, and I just added it to the collector with the 1 line patch necessary to add dtml-expr as a synonym for dtml-var: http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/1279/view Kevin - Original Message - From: "Paul Everitt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Withers" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Kevin Dangoor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ""? Suggestion: lobby Brian Lloyd about this. As Chris mentioned, reducing the "coefficient of complexity" is something he and I are focused on. Shorthand notations are convenient, but when they get inconsistent, you wind up with the other P language. :^) --Paul Chris Withers wrote: Kevin Dangoor wrote: Or, how about a dtml-expr tag (which could even start out as a simple synonym for dtml-var) so that people won't be confused about what is python and what is a variable lookup with the special calling properties. This is a great idea :-) New Old--- dtml-var x dtml-var x dtml-var name="x" dtml-expr "x" dtml-var expr="x" dtml-var "x" cheers, Chris PS: didn't Paul Everitt comment on this in the Perl thread? ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Deprecation of dtml-var ?
I've noticed that just about every new Zope user gets bitten by dtml-var foo == dtml-var name="foo" and dtml-var "foo" == dtml-var expr="foo". Messages reflecting this confusion come to the Zope list frequently. Everyone appreciates the shorthand, and everyone does eventually learn the difference between dtml-var foo and dtml-var "foo". Perhaps it would be better to use dtml-var name="foo" and dtml-var expr="foo" more often on the list for the sake of newcomers? Or perhaps there should be a whole (but short) chapter in the DTML that is nothing but boldface "dtml-var "foo" is actually running a python expression". Or, how about a dtml-expr tag (which could even start out as a simple synonym for dtml-var) so that people won't be confused about what is python and what is a variable lookup with the special calling properties. I think DTML is quite nice and works very well, but I see a lot of people get caught on this, and almost anything that can be done to remove the barriers of entry to Zope is a good thing. Kevin http://www.byproducts.com - Humor and Novelties ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
