Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
On Thursday 18 January 2001, at 13 h 52, the keyboard of "Mayers, Philip J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This certainly isn't *efficient*, but it works: Not here. Does it depend on a specific version of Zope? I have 2.2.2. Creating the zexp works but not the XML: wallis:~/tmp> wget --http-user=bortz --http-pass=jelediraipas 'http://www.pasteur.fr:9673/manage_exportObject?download%3Aint=1&toxml=Y' --09:29:08-- http://www.pasteur.fr:9673/manage_exportObject?download%3Aint=1&t oxml=Y => `manage_exportObject?download:int=1&toxml=Y' Connecting to www.pasteur.fr:9673... connected! HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 401 Unauthorized Connecting to www.pasteur.fr:9673... connected! HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 500 Internal Server Error 09:29:08 ERROR 500: Internal Server Error. Z2.log contains nothing useful: 157.99.64.24: - - [19/Jan/2001:09:29:08 +0200] "GET /manage_exportObject?download%3Aint=1&toxml=Y HTTP/1.0" 500 2631 "" "Wget/1.5.3" ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
I've just noticed another thing on this 'how to backup Data.fs' issue. Preparing to backup my work, I did a pack, and was then going to archive the resulting Data.fs.old. Because I'd added and deleted a bunch of files earlier today, the Data.fs.old file was 22M in size, and the freshly packed Data.fs was 4M. For example: -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 4325257 Jan 18 15:30 Data.fs -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths76750 Jan 8 08:43 Data.fs.in -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 129950 Jan 17 13:59 Data.fs.index -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths4 Jan 9 11:33 Data.fs.lock -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 22026222 Jan 17 13:53 Data.fs.old -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 188416 Jan 18 15:43 Data.fs.pack -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 8656275 Jan 18 15:30 Data.fs.tmp So, I tried running another pack, figuring that the .old file would then be replaced with a copy of the 4M file. But, it remained at 22M. I then deleted the Data.fs.old file, and re-ran the pack. At this point, I noticed that there has been a Data.fs.pack file around, and I don't get a new Data.fs.old. For example: -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 4325257 Jan 18 15:30 Data.fs -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths76750 Jan 8 08:43 Data.fs.in -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 129950 Jan 17 13:59 Data.fs.index -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths4 Jan 9 11:33 Data.fs.lock -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 4079616 Jan 18 15:43 Data.fs.pack -rw-r--r--1 zope WebAuths 8656275 Jan 18 15:30 Data.fs.tmp I'm running 2.2.5, under redhat 7.0. It seems like the idea of running a pack and then archiving Data.fs.old may not always be giving me a valid archive. Should I archive the Data.fs.pack file instead? Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Etienne Labuschagne wrote: > > What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope? When > >Pack + backup Data.fs.old. -- Martin Stitt Chief Software Engineer Esker, Inc. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (608) 273-6000 x331 fax: (608) 273-8227 web: http://www.esker.com ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] manage_exportObject checks Referer header (RE: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?)up Zope data base?)
My earlier suggestion: wget --http-user=username --http-pass=password \ http://server.name/Zope/path/to/folder/manage_exportObject?download%3Aint=1 Does not work (on Zope 2.2.5 at least) but this: wget --http-user=username --http-pass=password \ --header="Referer: http://server.name/Zope/path/to/folder/manage_importExportForm"\ http://server.name/Zope/path/to/folder/manage_exportObject?download%3Aint=1 ...does. Why does manage_exportObject check the Referer header? Is this by design? Regards, Phil +--+ | Phil Mayers, Network Support | | Centre for Computing Services| | Imperial College | +--+ -Original Message- From: Mayers, Philip J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 January 2001 13:52 To: 'Etienne Labuschagne'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base? This certainly isn't *efficient*, but it works: wget -http-user=usename -http-pass=password http://your.site.com/Zope/path/to/wherever/manage_exportObject?download%3Ain t=1 Will get you a .zexp of "/path/to/wherever", whereas: wget http://your.site.com/Zope/manage_exportObject?download%3Aint=1&toxml=Y Will get you an XML export of your entire site. Regards, Phil +--+ | Phil Mayers, Network Support | | Centre for Computing Services| | Imperial College | +--+ -Original Message- From: Etienne Labuschagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 January 2001 07:26 To: Zope user list (E-mail) Subject: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base? Hi all What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope? When I use backup, it just says that the file is in use and cannot be backed up. What I have done so far is to copy the file in explorer and back that up - but it feels kludgey and I'm not sure if I get the database in a state that is safe. Thanks all Etienne Tel: (012) 348 4586 Cel: 082 442 8981 Fax: (012) 361 8355 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:01:24AM -0600, Marty Stitt wrote: > FYI: I once had a situation where Zope wouldn't start due to corrupted data. > But, when I copied the Data.fs file to another installation, everything worked > fine. > When I tried putting a Data.fs from a fresh installation in place of the > corrupted one, Zope still wouldn't start. I finally discovered that deleting > the .index file was what it took. Ah, so there isn't a mechanism that detects invalid .index files. Maybe this should be reported to the COllector, I am sure Jim can come up with a solution. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ - ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:02:06AM -0600, Marty Stitt wrote: > While this topic of backup has come up, I'm wondering about restore. > > Looking at Data.* files in the var directory, I see: > > Data.fs > Data.fs.index > Data.fs.old > Data.fs.in > Data.fs.lock > Data.fs.tmp > > If I need or want to implant a Data.fs file into a system, either to restore a > system from corruption, or to copy my working information from my office > system to my home system (and visa versa), I suspect that I should also delete > the .index, .lock, and .tmp files. Regarding the .in file, I believe it must > remain. But, these are just hunches I have. > > Can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks in advance. You can only restore from a backup Data.fs when the site isn't running. - Data.fs.lock is the lock file for a running site, no need to back up. - Data.fs.old is the Pack operation created backup copy. - Data.fs.in is the default database for a new Zope installation. When there is no Data.fs, Data.fs.in is copied to Data.fs automatically on startup. - Data.fs.tmp I can't remember what it is used for, but I think it is only used for sub-transactions. No need to back it up or restore it. - Data.fs.index ihelps Zope to start up faster with a large Object Database. IIRC it records the position(s) of current versions of objects in the Data.fs so Zope can skip the Undo information faster. IIRC Zope will detect when the file is outdated/invalid after a restore. -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ - ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Marty Stitt wrote: > Data.fs This is the real database file. > Data.fs.index Its index. Remove before replacing Data.fs. > Data.fs.old This is backup after Pack. > Data.fs.in This is initial Data.fs - installation process copy this into Data.fs before starting Zope for the first time. > Data.fs.lock > Data.fs.tmp Temporary files. Feel free to remove them when Zope is not running. Oleg. Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
> >This is the real database file. > > > Data.fs.index > >Its index. Remove before replacing Data.fs. > > > Data.fs.old > >This is backup after Pack. > > > Data.fs.in > >This is initial Data.fs - installation process copy this into Data.fs > before starting Zope for the first time. > > > Data.fs.lock > > Data.fs.tmp > >Temporary files. Feel free to remove them when Zope is not running. > Thanks for clarify that. FYI: I once had a situation where Zope wouldn't start due to corrupted data. But, when I copied the Data.fs file to another installation, everything worked fine. When I tried putting a Data.fs from a fresh installation in place of the corrupted one, Zope still wouldn't start. I finally discovered that deleting the .index file was what it took. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
> > What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope? When > >Pack + backup Data.fs.old. Interesting approach! While this topic of backup has come up, I'm wondering about restore. Looking at Data.* files in the var directory, I see: Data.fs Data.fs.index Data.fs.old Data.fs.in Data.fs.lock Data.fs.tmp If I need or want to implant a Data.fs file into a system, either to restore a system from corruption, or to copy my working information from my office system to my home system (and visa versa), I suspect that I should also delete the .index, .lock, and .tmp files. Regarding the .in file, I believe it must remain. But, these are just hunches I have. Can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks in advance. -- Martin Stitt Chief Software Engineer Esker, Inc. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (608) 273-6000 x331 fax: (608) 273-8227 web: http://www.esker.com ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Etienne Labuschagne wrote: > What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope? When Pack + backup Data.fs.old. Oleg. Oleg Broytmann http://www.zope.org/Members/phd/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
This certainly isn't *efficient*, but it works: wget -http-user=usename -http-pass=password http://your.site.com/Zope/path/to/wherever/manage_exportObject?download%3Ain t=1 Will get you a .zexp of "/path/to/wherever", whereas: wget http://your.site.com/Zope/manage_exportObject?download%3Aint=1&toxml=Y Will get you an XML export of your entire site. Regards, Phil +--+ | Phil Mayers, Network Support | | Centre for Computing Services| | Imperial College | +--+ -Original Message- From: Etienne Labuschagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 January 2001 07:26 To: Zope user list (E-mail) Subject: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base? Hi all What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope? When I use backup, it just says that the file is in use and cannot be backed up. What I have done so far is to copy the file in explorer and back that up - but it feels kludgey and I'm not sure if I get the database in a state that is safe. Thanks all Etienne Tel: (012) 348 4586 Cel: 082 442 8981 Fax: (012) 361 8355 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
Etienne Labuschagne wrote: > > What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope? When > I use backup, it just says that the file is in use and cannot be backed up. MS Backup, yeah? Oh well, never mind ;-) > What I have done so far is to copy the file in explorer and back that up - > but it feels kludgey and I'm not sure if I get the database in a state that > is safe. That's fine and quite robust. Copy and archive data.fs is the recommended way of backing up Zope on any platform. cheers, Chris ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] How to backup Zope data base?
Hi all What is the best way to backup Zope's database whithout stopping Zope? When I use backup, it just says that the file is in use and cannot be backed up. What I have done so far is to copy the file in explorer and back that up - but it feels kludgey and I'm not sure if I get the database in a state that is safe. Thanks all Etienne Tel: (012) 348 4586 Cel: 082 442 8981 Fax: (012) 361 8355 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
