Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
Tony McDonald wrote: > If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run > Zope single threaded. Am I correct? I think Martijn Pieters answers this question in the Zope, Apache/NT, Reliability Issues thread. ethan mindlace fremen Zopatista Community Liason ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Tony McDonald wrote: > 1) Zope + Apache redirected to Zope.cgi with PCGI_PUBLISHER = > pcgi/pcgi_publisher.py = single threaded server. No ZServer activity. > Uses ZPublisher? > > 2) Zope + Apache redirected to Zope.cgi with PCGI_PUBLISHER = > ZServer/PCGIServer.py = ZServer based multi-threaded server. Implies > better throughput. > > If I'm anywhere near close, can someone please point out any > resources that will show me how to get option (2) working? There should not be any difference from (1) - when you ./start ZServer, its builtin PCGI server will create a socket - just point Zope.cgi to the socket as usual (as in 1). Actually, I think you don't need to do anything special at all - the socket will be in a place where Zope.cgi expects to find it. To speed things a bit up - replace Zope.cgi with mod_pcgi2. Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer) Oleg Broytmann Foundation for Effective Policies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
At 10:52 am + 8/6/00, Oleg Broytmann wrote: >On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Tony McDonald wrote: >> If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run >> Zope single threaded. Am I correct? > >No, you r not! Yoy can run multithreading ZServer and connect Apache to >it via PCGI. There are two PCGI servers in Zope - single-threaded and >builtin (as a component) in ZServer. > >Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer) Thanks for that Oleg, Well you live and learn... To the zope list, I'm going to go really slowly here, as this is something that has been bugging me for yonks! (I have read doc/WEBSERVER.txt ... again and again). 1) Zope + Apache redirected to Zope.cgi with PCGI_PUBLISHER = pcgi/pcgi_publisher.py = single threaded server. No ZServer activity. Uses ZPublisher? 2) Zope + Apache redirected to Zope.cgi with PCGI_PUBLISHER = ZServer/PCGIServer.py = ZServer based multi-threaded server. Implies better throughput. If I'm anywhere near close, can someone please point out any resources that will show me how to get option (2) working? Additionally, can I ask that if (2) *is* correct, then with the 2.2 release another script (w_zserver_pcgi.py ?) be released. cheers, tone -- Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Tony McDonald wrote: > If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run > Zope single threaded. Am I correct? No, you r not! Yoy can run multithreading ZServer and connect Apache to it via PCGI. There are two PCGI servers in Zope - single-threaded and builtin (as a component) in ZServer. Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer) Oleg Broytmann Foundation for Effective Policies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
Hi all, under /Software this is shown. The machine is running RedHat 6.1. The Zope installation is a CVS checkout with fairly conservative updating. The content is served completely out of the Zope database. Apache is used as the web server in front of Zope.org, using PCGI to integrate with the Zope server. Soon we will migrate to using FastCGI. Can someone please clarify something for me here. (I've been Zoping for 15 months and *still* don't know the correct answer) If you're running Zope from behind Apache/PCGI then you *have* to run Zope single threaded. Am I correct? Therefore, that implies that Zope org is not using ZServer to serve up documents. Still correct? If this is the case then I'm even more impressed, but would like to ask why not use Ansers 'Apache/ZServer HowTo' and get the best of both worlds? TIA Tone. -- Dr Tony McDonald, FMCC, Networked Learning Environments Project http://nle.ncl.ac.uk/ The Medical School, Newcastle University Tel: +44 191 222 5888 Fingerprint: 3450 876D FA41 B926 D3DD F8C3 F2D0 C3B9 8B38 18A2 ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
> Why do you call them hidden? /About/ just shows you a synopsis of hardware, > software, and Statistics. I just have been surfing on Zope (way too much) for at least the last year and never seen them. > We might change our priorities with the move to ZEO :) I bet! It would still be very cool to see you do a couple of boxes in a ZEO configuration under a grand. J ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
"J. Atwood" wrote: > > Just making my daily visit to Zope.org and stumbled across the statistics at > > http://www.zope.org/About/Statistics > > Very nice... > > There is a bunch more on the about page > > http://www.zope.org/About/ > > Cheers to DC and letting us see what they are doing behind the scenes > How are you going to spend that $1,000 when you get ZEO working? :) Thanks! Why do you call them hidden? /About/ just shows you a synopsis of hardware, software, and Statistics. We might change our priorities with the move to ZEO :) ~ethan ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope.org Hidden Stats
Just making my daily visit to Zope.org and stumbled across the statistics at http://www.zope.org/About/Statistics Very nice... There is a bunch more on the about page http://www.zope.org/About/ Cheers to DC and letting us see what they are doing behind the scenes How are you going to spend that $1,000 when you get ZEO working? :) JMA ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
