Re: [Zope] Information about Zope 3.2

2006-06-07 Thread John Huttley



Lennart Regebro wrote:

On 6/6/06, Michael Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good FAQ but you do not address the 64k EUR question: Is Zope 3 so
well thought out (separation of content and logic etc.) that is will
not only serve as an excellent application server but also the I
don't know how we survived without it future foundation for Plone,
Silva, CPS etc. CMS's?


Answer: Yes.
:-)


I disagree.

Zope 3 came out 2004-ish and even now there no support for connection to 
Corporate databases via ODBC

on the windows platform.

You can't even buy it from egenix.

That makes its a non-starter for me.

--John
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Re: [Zope] Information about Zope 3.2

2006-06-06 Thread Michael Dexter

Plone doesn't run on Zope 3, so that migration would be a seriously
major undertaking (ie, reqrite from scratch).

Please provide me information regarding this.


http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/lennart_regebro/2005_10_04_zope2-vs-zope3-faq


Good FAQ but you do not address the 64k EUR question: Is Zope 3 so 
well thought out (separation of content and logic etc.) that is will 
not only serve as an excellent application server but also the I 
don't know how we survived without it future foundation for Plone, 
Silva, CPS etc. CMS's?


I am aware that Z3 features are being gradually phased in but I have 
yet to see an existing or new CMS to claim that it is the first true 
third generation CMS based on Zope's third generation foundation.


Facts? Links?

Appreciated,

Michael
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Re: [Zope] Information about Zope 3.2

2006-06-06 Thread Alec Mitchell

On 6/6/06, Michael Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Plone doesn't run on Zope 3, so that migration would be a seriously
major undertaking (ie, reqrite from scratch).
Please provide me information regarding this.

http://blogs.nuxeo.com/sections/blogs/lennart_regebro/2005_10_04_zope2-vs-zope3-faq

Good FAQ but you do not address the 64k EUR question: Is Zope 3 so
well thought out (separation of content and logic etc.) that is will
not only serve as an excellent application server but also the I
don't know how we survived without it future foundation for Plone,
Silva, CPS etc. CMS's?

I am aware that Z3 features are being gradually phased in but I have
yet to see an existing or new CMS to claim that it is the first true
third generation CMS based on Zope's third generation foundation.

Facts? Links?


The jump to Zope 3 is a huge one, and it is no surprise that existing
CMS's have not yet made it.  I personally believe that the Zope 3
architecture is very compelling, and we are trying to leverage some of
that for Plone.  If you want to see an actual CMS implemented fully in
Zope 3 you many want to look at Tiks, http://www.tiks.org/ .  A large
non-CMS application making use of Zope 3 is SchoolTool.  There are
many resources on the net describing the features and advantages of
Zope 3.

Alec
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Re: [Zope] Information about Zope 3.2

2006-06-06 Thread Lennart Regebro

On 6/6/06, Michael Dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good FAQ but you do not address the 64k EUR question: Is Zope 3 so
well thought out (separation of content and logic etc.) that is will
not only serve as an excellent application server but also the I
don't know how we survived without it future foundation for Plone,
Silva, CPS etc. CMS's?


Answer: Yes.
:-)

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Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/
CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/
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