Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-10 Thread yuppie
Tres Seaver wrote:
> David Glick wrote:
> 
>> How soon can we expect a CMF 2.2 release?  Are there blockers, aside  
>> from a final Zope 2.12 release?  Ideally we'd like to make an alpha  
>> release of Plone 4 around the beginning of October (right, Eric?)
> 
> I don't know of any real blockers:  we should be able to release
> whenever Zope 2.12 does.

I think these issues should be resolved before making a release:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/161664 (add views)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/308947 (_checkWorkflowAllowed)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope-cmf/+bug/397795 (icon_expr)

Cheers, Yuppie

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Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-09 Thread Tres Seaver
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David Glick wrote:

> How soon can we expect a CMF 2.2 release?  Are there blockers, aside  
> from a final Zope 2.12 release?  Ideally we'd like to make an alpha  
> release of Plone 4 around the beginning of October (right, Eric?)

I don't know of any real blockers:  we should be able to release
whenever Zope 2.12 does.


Tres.
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Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-09 Thread David Glick
On Jul 9, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Charlie Clark wrote:
> As previously noted backwards compatability should be desirable but  
> not at
> too high a price. CMF 2.2 contains a lot of changes not least the
> eggification and buildout support that stem largely from the changes  
> in
> Zope trunk so it is reasonable to make 2.12 the new baseline.  
> However, it
> was also previously stated that Plone 4 might not be able to based on
> 2.12. Tres seems to indicate that this is no longer going to be the  
> case.
> So +1 for 1) from me.


Just to put in a word from the Plone world...we have our Plone 4  
branch running pretty well on Zope 2.12/CMF trunk (there are still a  
few issues to work through, but we haven't run into any CMF-related  
ones yet).  So +1 from us too.

How soon can we expect a CMF 2.2 release?  Are there blockers, aside  
from a final Zope 2.12 release?  Ideally we'd like to make an alpha  
release of Plone 4 around the beginning of October (right, Eric?)

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Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-09 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 05.07.2009, 17:38 Uhr, schrieb yuppie :

> 1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.
> 2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.
> 3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.
> 4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk
> dependencies.
> 5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make
> imports from both locations working.

> Any preferences or better ideas?

As previously noted backwards compatability should be desirable but not at  
too high a price. CMF 2.2 contains a lot of changes not least the  
eggification and buildout support that stem largely from the changes in  
Zope trunk so it is reasonable to make 2.12 the new baseline. However, it  
was also previously stated that Plone 4 might not be able to based on  
2.12. Tres seems to indicate that this is no longer going to be the case.  
So +1 for 1) from me.

Charlie
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Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-06 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Jul 5, 2009, at 16:47 , Tres Seaver wrote:

> I would change CMF 2.2 to import from the new locations, and require
> Zope >= 2.12:  I can see no benefit in trying to straddle with 2.11,  
> and
> Plone 4.0 is supposed to move to Zope 2.12 and CMF 2.2 this year.

+1

jens



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Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-06 Thread yuppie
Tres Seaver wrote:
> yuppie wrote:
>>
>> Possible solutions:
>> ---
>>
>> 1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.
>>
>> 2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.
>>
>> 3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.
>>
>> 4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk 
>> dependencies.
>>
>> 5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make 
>> imports from both locations working.
>>
>>
>> Any preferences or better ideas?
> 
> I would change CMF 2.2 to import from the new locations, and require
> Zope >= 2.12:  I can see no benefit in trying to straddle with 2.11, and
> Plone 4.0 is supposed to move to Zope 2.12 and CMF 2.2 this year.

Ok. I'm fine with that.

If there are no objections I'll make 'Zope2 >= 2.12.0b3dev' required and 
remove obsolete BBB code.

Cheers, Yuppie

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Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-05 Thread Tres Seaver
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yuppie wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> 
> zope.app.component and zope.app.container are no longer part of Zope 2 
> trunk, but CMF currently has many imports from these two packages.
> 
> All the code needed by CMF has been moved to new packages (zope.site, 
> zope.browser, zope.container) that are part of Zope 2 trunk, but they 
> are not part of Zope 2.11.
> 
> 
> Possible solutions:
> ---
> 
> 1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.
> 
> 2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.
> 
> 3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.
> 
> 4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk 
> dependencies.
> 
> 5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make 
> imports from both locations working.
> 
> 
> Any preferences or better ideas?

I would change CMF 2.2 to import from the new locations, and require
Zope >= 2.12:  I can see no benefit in trying to straddle with 2.11, and
Plone 4.0 is supposed to move to Zope 2.12 and CMF 2.2 this year.


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[Zope-CMF] [dev] CMF 2.2 dependencies

2009-07-05 Thread yuppie
Hi!


zope.app.component and zope.app.container are no longer part of Zope 2 
trunk, but CMF currently has many imports from these two packages.

All the code needed by CMF has been moved to new packages (zope.site, 
zope.browser, zope.container) that are part of Zope 2 trunk, but they 
are not part of Zope 2.11.


Possible solutions:
---

1.) Make Zope >= 2.12 required for CMF 2.2 and change all imports.

2.) Make Zope < 2.13 required for CMF 2.2.

3.) Add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to CMF dependencies.

4.) Re-add zope.app.component and zope.app.container to Zope 2 trunk 
dependencies.

5.) Add a lot of try except imports and modify zcml files to make 
imports from both locations working.


Any preferences or better ideas?


Cheers,

Yuppie


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