Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-31 Thread Miles
Hi,

This is now checked in on the miwa-adapterise-memberdata branch of 
CMFCore.

I'll merge it in next week.

Miles


Miles wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We have quite a lot of copy-and-paste code here in order to support 
 using a custom MemberData class for members in particular sites.
 
 The reason for this is that the only way to use a different MemberData 
 class is to provide a custom wrapUser method.
 
 I'd like to propose that this is changed to use a factory registered 
 through the CA to create new MemberData objects, in order that this is 
 pluggable without requiring a custom MemberDataTool.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Miles
 
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Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-19 Thread Charlie Clark

Am 18.03.2009 um 18:02 schrieb Miles:


 Sure.  Example use cases are fairly simple things like:

  - I set members to have first_name, last_name, job_title attributes
 and
I want to give them an attribute proper_name that returns
 '%s %s (%s)' % (first_name, last_name, job_title);

  - I want to provide a standardised sortable name for ordering rows,
 e.g. (last_name + ' ' + first_name).lower()

  - I want to adjust the setProperties method to add a 'modified'
attribute that's adjusted on every change of details

 For sites with integration we use PAS.  But for small sites with very
 simple member requirements, the MemberDataTool generally does most of
 what's required out of the box.


A good explanation.

+1 from me.

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
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 On Mar 18, 2009, at 16:12 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:
 
  Previously Miles wrote:
  We have quite a lot of copy-and-paste code here in order to support
  using a custom MemberData class for members in particular sites.
 
  The reason for this is that the only way to use a different  
  MemberData
  class is to provide a custom wrapUser method.
 
  I'd like to propose that this is changed to use a factory registered
  through the CA to create new MemberData objects, in order that this  
  is
  pluggable without requiring a custom MemberDataTool.
 
  Can you explain the use case? I suspect you can also solve this with  
  PAS
  and a custom user factory PAS plugin.
 
 One use case I have: I need a different Member Data object (and thus  
 the whole overridden tool) for Products.CMFLDAP in order to have  
 custom overridden methods on those MemberData objects that call non- 
 standard methods on the user folder.

Personally I would rather find a way to get rid of the Member Data
object and rely PAS to provide all the required features. Is there
a reason, other than not wanting to add a dependency on PAS, to use a
Member Data object?

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-19 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Mar 19, 2009, at 12:50 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:

 Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 One use case I have: I need a different Member Data object (and thus
 the whole overridden tool) for Products.CMFLDAP in order to have
 custom overridden methods on those MemberData objects that call non-
 standard methods on the user folder.

 Personally I would rather find a way to get rid of the Member Data
 object and rely PAS to provide all the required features. Is there
 a reason, other than not wanting to add a dependency on PAS, to use a
 Member Data object?

There's also the fact that I want to do it the way it's done in the  
CMF, which means by way of a member data object. Should the CMF itself  
get rid of that construct I'll adjust my software as well. I believe  
I'd have to write more custom code in my software if I tried to do it  
through PAS alone.

jens


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Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 16:23 , Miles wrote:

 Hi,

 We have quite a lot of copy-and-paste code here in order to support
 using a custom MemberData class for members in particular sites.

 The reason for this is that the only way to use a different MemberData
 class is to provide a custom wrapUser method.

 I'd like to propose that this is changed to use a factory registered
 through the CA to create new MemberData objects, in order that this is
 pluggable without requiring a custom MemberDataTool.

 Any thoughts?

Not really thoughts, but definitely +1 from me as well.

jens



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Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Miles wrote:
 We have quite a lot of copy-and-paste code here in order to support 
 using a custom MemberData class for members in particular sites.
 
 The reason for this is that the only way to use a different MemberData 
 class is to provide a custom wrapUser method.
 
 I'd like to propose that this is changed to use a factory registered 
 through the CA to create new MemberData objects, in order that this is 
 pluggable without requiring a custom MemberDataTool.

Can you explain the use case? I suspect you can also solve this with PAS
and a custom user factory PAS plugin.

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-18 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 16:12 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:

 Previously Miles wrote:
 We have quite a lot of copy-and-paste code here in order to support
 using a custom MemberData class for members in particular sites.

 The reason for this is that the only way to use a different  
 MemberData
 class is to provide a custom wrapUser method.

 I'd like to propose that this is changed to use a factory registered
 through the CA to create new MemberData objects, in order that this  
 is
 pluggable without requiring a custom MemberDataTool.

 Can you explain the use case? I suspect you can also solve this with  
 PAS
 and a custom user factory PAS plugin.

One use case I have: I need a different Member Data object (and thus  
the whole overridden tool) for Products.CMFLDAP in order to have  
custom overridden methods on those MemberData objects that call non- 
standard methods on the user folder.

jens


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Re: [Zope-CMF] Proposal: MemberDataFactory

2009-03-18 Thread Miles
Hi,

 We have quite a lot of copy-and-paste code here in order to support 
 using a custom MemberData class for members in particular sites.

 The reason for this is that the only way to use a different MemberData 
 class is to provide a custom wrapUser method.

 I'd like to propose that this is changed to use a factory registered 
 through the CA to create new MemberData objects, in order that this is 
 pluggable without requiring a custom MemberDataTool.
 
 Can you explain the use case? I suspect you can also solve this with PAS
 and a custom user factory PAS plugin.

Sure.  Example use cases are fairly simple things like:

  - I set members to have first_name, last_name, job_title attributes 
and
I want to give them an attribute proper_name that returns
 '%s %s (%s)' % (first_name, last_name, job_title);

  - I want to provide a standardised sortable name for ordering rows,
 e.g. (last_name + ' ' + first_name).lower()

  - I want to adjust the setProperties method to add a 'modified'
attribute that's adjusted on every change of details

For sites with integration we use PAS.  But for small sites with very 
simple member requirements, the MemberDataTool generally does most of 
what's required out of the box.

Miles


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