Re: [Zope-dev] Changes to ZCatalog

2002-06-13 Thread Max M

Casey Duncan wrote:

I made several changes yesterday to ZCatalog that may be of interest to
you if you have a product that subclasses or embeds ZCatalogs/Catalogs.

snip
  


Hmm ... I have subscribed to zope-dev for the longest time now, and as 
far as I remember this is the first time I have seen a simple and 
concise explanation of a change taking place.

I wonder where this information usually is dissiminated. I would imagine 
that zope-dev should be filled with information like this, but it very 
rarely is.

Is information about Zope development only discussed orally at zope.com, 
or is attached as comments in the cvs, or where do you guys keep each 
other up to date about changes taking place?

regards Max M

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[Zope-dev] fsrecover in hot ?

2002-06-13 Thread Julián Muñoz


Can fsrecover be launched in hot, or must I stop zope (or use it over
a copy of Data.fs). My idea is to do some periodical (cron) checkings.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Changes to ZCatalog

2002-06-13 Thread Casey Duncan

On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 02:43, Max M wrote:
 Casey Duncan wrote:
 
 I made several changes yesterday to ZCatalog that may be of interest to
 you if you have a product that subclasses or embeds ZCatalogs/Catalogs.
 
 snip
   
 
 
 Hmm ... I have subscribed to zope-dev for the longest time now, and as 
 far as I remember this is the first time I have seen a simple and 
 concise explanation of a change taking place.

Thanks, I will try to do more of these messages as I make/see changes
like this in the trunk.

 I wonder where this information usually is dissiminated. I would imagine 
 that zope-dev should be filled with information like this, but it very 
 rarely is.

I think it should be. I think very few people read the checkin messages,
and they seldom contain big picture narrative anyhow. 

I think messages here should be sent when there are big picture impacts.
It can act like informal historical documentation.
 
 Is information about Zope development only discussed orally at zope.com, 
 or is attached as comments in the cvs, or where do you guys keep each 
 other up to date about changes taking place?

We have weekly jam sessions where we often hash out new ideas.
Certainly the CVS is commented, but it is at quite a low level. I think
we (ZC'ers) all know we can do a better job desseminating our ideas to
the community. It really a question of bandwidth (or lack thereof). 

On the bright side, your message has inspired me to be a bit more of a
narrator. It's always glad to hear when people actually read something
I write and get something out of it.

 
 regards Max M
 
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Ain't it the truth ;^)

-Casey



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Re: [Zope-dev] Changes to ZCatalog

2002-06-13 Thread Shane Hathaway

Max M wrote:
 Is information about Zope development only discussed orally at zope.com, 
 or is attached as comments in the cvs, or where do you guys keep each 
 other up to date about changes taking place?

There are dozens (sometimes hundreds) of updates, usually posted with 
nearly complete documentation and updates to unit tests, every day.  To 
keep in the loop, just read. ;-)

http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-checkins/

http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/FrontPage

http://dev.zope.org/Projects/

http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/

Shane



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RE: [Zope-dev] bug in RESPONSE.appendHeader

2002-06-13 Thread Brian Lloyd

 Glad to help.
 
 The error in the documentation string seems to have propagated to other
 locations.  It appears in /lib/python/Products/OFSP/Response.py(line 130)
 and in the Zope Book
 http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZopeBook/AppendixB.stx.

Ok - I've fixed the help system .py file and added a comment to 
the book site so that this should get fixed for the next rev.

Thanks!


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Re: [Zope-dev] Changes to ZCatalog

2002-06-13 Thread Toby Dickenson

On Thursday 13 Jun 2002 3:02 pm, Casey Duncan wrote:

  I wonder where this information usually is dissiminated. I would imagine
  that zope-dev should be filled with information like this, but it very
  rarely is.

 I think it should be. I think very few people read the checkin messages,
 and they seldom contain big picture narrative anyhow.

A while ago I had my email client set up with a filter that hid most of the 
checkins list, except commits to doc/CHANGES.txt. That works reasonably well.

Today, I read all the checkins list. What a joy.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Changes to ZCatalog

2002-06-13 Thread Dieter Maurer

Casey Duncan writes:
   Currently, CMF falls under this category. :-(
  
  Yes, I have begun to fix it. I want to determine exactly which
  Indexes/metdata are really needed in CMF. Like, do we really need both
  Title and title indexes and metadata? How about bobobase_mod_time?
I would twice answer with no, we do not need.


Dieter


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Re: [Zope-dev] Changes to ZCatalog

2002-06-13 Thread Adrian Hungate

Hmm... which of 'title' and 'Title' is now considered correct form? That one
certainly needs and index and metadata. The others probably not.

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 Casey Duncan writes:
Currently, CMF falls under this category. :-(
  
   Yes, I have begun to fix it. I want to determine exactly which
   Indexes/metdata are really needed in CMF. Like, do we really need both
   Title and title indexes and metadata? How about bobobase_mod_time?
 I would twice answer with no, we do not need.


 Dieter


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[Zope-dev] 2nd Zope Instance

2002-06-13 Thread William Trenker

I appreciate the good advice I got here on starting a 2nd instance of Zope 
using a separate INSTANCE_HOME folder and a different HTTP port.  That 
works great!

Now I'm wondering where I can get a bare-bones copy of the data.fs file for 
the 2nd instance without having to re-install Zope using the Windows 
installer.  (I got the 2nd instance working with a copy of my production 
data.fs, but I'd like to do my debugging with a stripped down database.)

Also, I noticed in my production var folder that there are a lot of files 
named data.fs.tr0, data.fs.tr1, etc.  Can I delete these?

Thanks again for the help.

Bill
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[Zope-dev] Last-modified and bobobase_modification_time

2002-06-13 Thread Wei He

Hi all,

Say you have 1_html with only one line:
dtml-var 2_html

When you HEAD http://xxx/1_html, you get Last-Modified refelecting only 
the last modification time of 1_html, while most people is expecting it 
to be newer one of 1_html and 2_html. 

Does anyone know of a walk-around like using the max() of 
bobobase_modification_time().timeTime() on the document itself
and all the componets it dtml-vared?

Forgive my using of non-Zope terms, for I'm new to Zope/Python.

Wei He



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