Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.12: mkzopeinstance, runzope and zopectl - a small proposal

2009-09-07 Thread Chris Withers
yuppie wrote:
 You ripped my sentence out of context. We were talking about Zope 2.12. 
 And Zope 2.12 currently doesn't use buildout for setting up instances.
 Sure it does. I've published the recipe. There's no more needed than that...
 
 Your recipe is not published as part of Zope 2.12. 

I'm not sure it needs to...

 And it doesn't work 
 on Windows.

Have you tried it?

 Nope. As I said, The Zope 2.12 software will never be in such a 
 buildout, just used by it. As such, the egg cache wherever and however 
 you have it becomes the Zope 2.12 software... Anything in the buildout 
 is software that is local to that instance, like Products or External 
 Methods used to be in days of old...
 
 Are you ignoring the fact that buildouts with several dev eggs exist? Or 
 do you define all dev eggs as local to the instance?

I don't really see what you're driving at here...
dev eggs are just lines in {buildout:develop}, where they point to 
doesn't matter so I don't know what you mean by local to the instance...

 For development I regularly use one dev buildout with several different 
 test instances. 

Can you post an example buildout.cfg, and what your instances look like, 
since I don't reall understand what you're doing...

 The dev eggs are local to my dev buildout, but not local 
 to the test instances.

What does this actually mean? For me, a dev egg is usually just an svn 
checkout, specified in {buildout:develop}. For me, they're never usually 
in any buildout, unless the package itself is buildout-driven and I'm 
actually developing it, but that has nothing to do with my test 
instances... That said, I often use a few dev eggs that aren't 
buildout driven at all, so I really fail to see your point...

 I meant I nicer way of passing in the location of zope.conf...
 If you create the instance in the same step your solution doesn't look 
 that bad. 
 I don't know what you mean by this...
 
 You propose to create the entry point and the instance in the same step. 

What is the instance you're referring to here?

 And you have these lines in your buildout.cfg:
 
initialization =
   import sys
   sys.argv[1:1] = ['-C','${buildout:directory}/etc/zope.conf']
 
 Why are you not happy with that solution?

It feels icky...

 Exactly. But if we always use the same Python, why do we have to specify 
 it in several places?
 Huh? You don't...
 
 Your buildout.cfg creates an interpreter entry point 'py'. Your 
 zope.conf.in specifies python $INSTANCE/bin/py.

That would never need to be changed be anyone using a buildout-based 
instance. If buildout was blessed as the right way, it could disappear 
into a default and nto even need to be included.

 But the zopectl entry point already contains all the information it 
 needs. runzope doesn't depend on 'py'. Why does zopectl have to look up 
 the interpreter path in zope.conf und use 'py'?

I dunno, ask whoever wrote zdaemon ;-)
If it's not specified, it just uses python, which won't have the 
buildout's eggs available.

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] New Release: zc.zservertracelog v1.2.0

2009-09-07 Thread Chris Withers
Alexander J Smith wrote:
 A new version of zc.zservertracelog has been released.  This version
 mostly fixes bugs that were found in the tracereport analysis script.

Where can we find out more about this package? Sounds potentially useful ;-)

Is it Zope 2 focused? Zope 3?

Chris

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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK

2009-09-07 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Sun Sep  6 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Mon Sep  7 12:00:00 2009 UTC.
There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 20:49:29 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012480.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 20:51:29 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012481.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 20:53:30 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012482.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 20:55:30 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012483.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 20:57:30 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012484.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 20:59:30 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012485.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 21:01:30 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012486.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Sun Sep  6 21:03:30 EDT 2009
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-September/012487.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] New Release: zc.zservertracelog v1.2.0

2009-09-07 Thread Alexander J Smith
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Chris Withersch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
 Alexander J Smith wrote:

 A new version of zc.zservertracelog has been released.  This version
 mostly fixes bugs that were found in the tracereport analysis script.

 Where can we find out more about this package? Sounds potentially useful ;-)

 Is it Zope 2 focused? Zope 3?

 Chris

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You can find the latest release on PYPI here:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.zservertracelog

It's a Zope 3 package that implements a Zope 2 style tracelog.  More
info can be found in the package docs.

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Zope Corporation
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