Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
Given the current level of consensus, I plan on precluding pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits some time after the middle of May 2009. I'll try add some form of warning for affected users in the next month or so. If I can't get it to work I still plan to go forward with the deprecation. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
I'd like for us to disallow pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits starting one year from now (or sooner if there is consensus). The recent hardware problems for svn.zope.org had the positive outcome of precipitating an upgrade to Subversion 1.5 which has merge tracking. One of the requirements to use merge tracking is that no pre-1.5 client merge to the branch that you want to use with merge tracking. That means that as of now, anyone can use merge tracking on their projects as long as all merges are done with a mergeinfo-capable (1.5+) client. Until we ban commits from pre-1.5 clients (using a pre-commit hook), anyone who wants to use merge tracking will have to be careful with the clients they use (and watch out for rouge merges from other contributors which can be fixed-up after the fact). The Subversion book includes information about merge tracking: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.basicmerging.html http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.advanced.html A description of the pre-1.5 client problem is at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.advanced.html#svn.branchmerge.advanced.pre1.5clients -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 13, 2008, at 14:42 , Benji York wrote: I'd like for us to disallow pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits starting one year from now (or sooner if there is consensus). +1 jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkkcQx4ACgkQRAx5nvEhZLKugACfUMq7DHVTzRNdF61grqsIzFdd xqoAnRe5LpwZfh5JoD08z5Sj/SrOh0Ep =Zf2H -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 13, 2008, at 14:42 , Benji York wrote: I'd like for us to disallow pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits starting one year from now (or sooner if there is consensus). +1 I vote for sooner, if that makes things easier. I'm already using 1.5 and I'm on Windows, so I guess the Linux users out there shouldn't have a problem getting an up-to-date package right? :) -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 Skype zopedc ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benji York wrote: I'd like for us to disallow pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits starting one year from now (or sooner if there is consensus). The recent hardware problems for svn.zope.org had the positive outcome of precipitating an upgrade to Subversion 1.5 which has merge tracking. One of the requirements to use merge tracking is that no pre-1.5 client merge to the branch that you want to use with merge tracking. That means that as of now, anyone can use merge tracking on their projects as long as all merges are done with a mergeinfo-capable (1.5+) client. Until we ban commits from pre-1.5 clients (using a pre-commit hook), anyone who wants to use merge tracking will have to be careful with the clients they use (and watch out for rouge merges from other contributors which can be fixed-up after the fact). The Subversion book includes information about merge tracking: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.basicmerging.html http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.advanced.html A description of the pre-1.5 client problem is at http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.branchmerge.advanced.html#svn.branchmerge.advanced.pre1.5clients +0, I guess: I would be more comfortable if we could measure the incidence of pre-1.5 client usage over time, and maybe even identify the committers who are using them, so that we can sent out a targeted warning message before breaking their checkouts. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJHFWo+gerLs4ltQ4RAlDWAJ4mhFz6683K5eLs3T061ejSCaiIQACghWmn OQjtYqIrO3TXnn5SsrjhrL4= =Bncy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
On 13.11.2008 14:42 Uhr, Benji York wrote: I'd like for us to disallow pre-1.5 Subversion clients from making commits starting one year from now (or sooner if there is consensus). +1 - six months should be enough for the transition. Andreas begin:vcard fn:Andreas Jung n:Jung;Andreas org:ZOPYX Ltd. Co. KG adr;quoted-printable:;;Charlottenstr. 37/1;T=C3=BCbingen;;72070;Germany email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:CEO tel;work:+49-7071-793376 tel;fax:+49-7071-7936840 tel;home:+49-7071-793257 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.zopyx.com version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +0, I guess: I would be more comfortable if we could measure the incidence of pre-1.5 client usage over time, and maybe even identify the committers who are using them, so that we can sent out a targeted warning message before breaking their checkouts. Checkouts are not a problem, only checkins. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 Skype zopedc ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Subversion merge tracking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +0, I guess: I would be more comfortable if we could measure the incidence of pre-1.5 client usage over time, and maybe even identify the committers who are using them, so that we can sent out a targeted warning message before breaking their checkouts. Checkouts are not a problem, only checkins. I'm talking about users who have *existing* checkouts on a pre-1.5 machine. If they are make a commits from there, during the deprecation period, we should collect that information, so that we can notify them before breaking their ability to make further commits. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJHFoi+gerLs4ltQ4RAkWcAJ97an0p0FjwGG2SuMLjIxVNw0FMBwCgsgOM cQvNBSRv2YPTIlVIBSyIihk= =8+my -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
