[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 4 OK, 1 Failed

2007-09-29 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Fri Sep 28 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Sat Sep 29 12:00:00 2007 UTC.
There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests.


Test failures
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Subject: FAILED (failures=1) : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Fri Sep 28 20:55:31 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-September/008414.html


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Fri Sep 28 20:51:00 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-September/008411.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Fri Sep 28 20:52:30 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-September/008412.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Fri Sep 28 20:54:01 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-September/008413.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Fri Sep 28 20:57:01 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-September/008415.html

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[Zope-dev] Re: Zope.org, and thus Zope itself, is in trouble

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Aspeli

Hi Greg,

I think Zope is in serious trouble and the Zope.org web site is badly  
in need of attention.  I started using zope in 2001 at Xerox PARC and  
the helpful and persuasive resources at zope.org were a major  
factor.  Today, zope.org is full of dead links and it very hard to  
use unless you are already experienced.  Consequently, getting  
started with Zope today is harder now than is was, even though the  
actual software is better.


A key factor is that based on the zope.org web site it is not  
apparent whether the community is healthy or not, and the general  
impression is that the project is stalled since so many links are  
dead and defunct.  How can the decay in the key zope web site have  
gotten so bad?  (In  fact I am not so sure myself of the zope  
community health any longer, despite the ongoing zope postings here  
--  I hope I will find I'm wrong in this regard at least).


I think this has something to do with what kind of people Zope and the 
Zope community attracts. They are not really web designers or graphics 
people or content gardeners.


Also, let's not get distracted by Google and/or all the other places  
to find zope stuff.  The fact is, Zope.org is the de facto primary  
destination especially for newbies.  If it's in bad shape it directly  
impacts Zope uptake and usage.


I couldn't agree more. The good news is that several people (who's 
opinion matters more than my own) also agree. Now that the Zope 
Foundation exists, there is a mandate and a bit more room to manoeuvre. 
No-one has a lot of spare time to devote to it, but it's moving up 
various people's to-do lists. The situation may not be as dire as it is 
now for too long.


Martin

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Acquisition is a jealous mistress

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