Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Don't get me wrong, if we can make a quick decision to use this design for all zope.org-related sites I'd be really happy. +1 for Tom's design to be used for all *.zope.org microsites. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
It should be: .columntwo { display: block; position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 150px; right: 0px; } On Oct 16, 2006, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote: All kinds of weird behavior with that under Firefox on my Mac. Paste me the entire class definition for .columntwo Andrew On 10/16/06 2:51 PM, "Darryl Cousins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 15:25 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: I don't see a rightcolumn class in Foundation stuffmaybe missing the obvious though. A Hi Andrew, This works for me (Firefox 1.5.0.4 - haven't tested IE, but should be ok): Replace: .columntwo { display: block; position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 150px; ... With: .columntwo { display: block; position: absolute; top: 0px; right: 0px; /* changed from left */ margin-left: 150px; /* added */ ... Regards, Darryl ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
All kinds of weird behavior with that under Firefox on my Mac. Paste me the entire class definition for .columntwo Andrew On 10/16/06 2:51 PM, "Darryl Cousins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 15:25 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: >> I don't see a rightcolumn class in Foundation stuffmaybe missing the >> obvious though. >> >> A >> > > Hi Andrew, > > This works for me (Firefox 1.5.0.4 - haven't tested IE, but should be > ok): > > Replace: > > .columntwo { > display: block; > position: absolute; > top: 0px; > left: 150px; > ... > > With: > > .columntwo { > display: block; > position: absolute; > top: 0px; > right: 0px; /* changed from left */ > margin-left: 150px; /* added */ > ... > > Regards, > Darryl > ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 15:25 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > I don't see a rightcolumn class in Foundation stuffmaybe missing the > obvious though. > > A > Hi Andrew, This works for me (Firefox 1.5.0.4 - haven't tested IE, but should be ok): Replace: .columntwo { display: block; position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 150px; ... With: .columntwo { display: block; position: absolute; top: 0px; right: 0px; /* changed from left */ margin-left: 150px; /* added */ ... Regards, Darryl ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
I don't see a rightcolumn class in Foundation stuffmaybe missing the obvious though. A On 10/16/06 6:47 AM, "Tom Von Lahndorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That should do it. For the Foundation website though it should be on > the .rightcolumn class. > > > On Oct 16, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Kevin Teague wrote: > >> I think I figured out an easy fix for the watermark bug. In >> the .content declaration of the CSS add: >> >> right: 0px; >> >> This should pin the right side of the content box to the edge of >> the browser window and the watermark lines up :) >> >> I've only tested this on FF and Safari on Mac, but it should work >> in IE6, that's a pretty stable, bug free browser ... >> >> - Kevin >> >> On Oct 15, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Michael Bernstein wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 11:12 -0700, Michael Bernstein wrote: Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of the 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is causing the grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these pages, instead of lining up with the to header watermark. >>> >>> Typo, sorry: "top header watermark". >>> >>> - Michael Bernstein >>> >>> ___ >>> Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org >>> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web >>> >> >> ___ >> Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org >> http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web > > ___ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 06:51 -0400, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: > Im noticing that the pages of the Foundation website are pages within > pages. Meaning entire pages including the doctype, body and head tags > were pasted within the site wrapper. These secondary doctype body and > head tags should be removed. Hi Tom, Yes, I have sent a fix through to Andrew (who has access to the code on the server). Regards, Darryl ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
Kevin - whether this is the final design or not - beautiful. :) Thanks for doing this. My 2c - as a consumer of zope docs, I'd be happy to see this very classy water-motif top bar used across a bunch of zope foundation & zope.org microsites. Also I like very much that you've kept the body font at a standard size. Later, -Simon ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: Don't get me wrong, if we can make a quick decision to use this design for all zope.org-related sites I'd be really happy. Me too. I'm +sys.maxint on this, we've wasted way too much time already wanking around various designs. Tom has done an amazing amount of work in this area, lets not make him do any more than he needs to :-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Oct 2006, at 09:43, Andrew Sawyers wrote: Besides, if we choose a different design for zope.org it might be a bit confusing when you jump to a wiki site with a different design - unless that doesn't matter. Well, I think this design is born from the design originally made for zope.org, no? So hopefully we can use something similar for all the sites. ___ You are right Lennart - I think Jens is a little confused. :) I don't think so. The foundation design was based on zope.org design mockups, but AFAIK the actual discussion about what design to use for zope.org had not ended. We just took the mockup for the foundation site because we needed something right away and the foundation site design did not elicit as much discussion as the overall zope.org design. Don't get me wrong, if we can make a quick decision to use this design for all zope.org-related sites I'd be really happy. I'm just trying to make sure we have a decision supported by a majority, which I did not think existed for zope.org - only for foundation.zope.org. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFM43jRAx5nvEhZLIRArNfAJwLiCFsIAf1ScOXDG1e6OX8NLMb9wCbBsnr t7c+u221KJe/QNik14UIJWY= =lnD2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
This will not be the case in the official foundation website. There's apparently a bug in docutils Andrew On 10/16/06 6:51 AM, "Tom Von Lahndorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Im noticing that the pages of the Foundation website are pages within > pages. Meaning entire pages including the doctype, body and head tags > were pasted within the site wrapper. These secondary doctype body and > head tags should be removed. > > On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote: > >> On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, "Michael Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: See: foundation.zope.org This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it. Thanks Darryl and David from ZC. I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces from Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. >>> >>> Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized. >>> >>> Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of >>> the >>> 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is >>> causing the >>> grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these >>> pages, >>> instead of lining up with the to header watermark. >>> >>> This was observed with Firefox 1.5. >>> >>> - Michael Bernstein >>> >> >> Yeah, this happens to me as well. I'm cc'ing Tom to see if he >> might have >> some fixes in mind... >> >> Andrew Sawyers >> > > ___ > Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org > http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
On 10/16/06 9:35 AM, "Lennart Regebro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/16/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You're definitely right on that, I just wanted to bring it up so we >> don't have a lot of people starting to complain *after* the redesign >> work for other microsites has been done. > > Yes, good point! > >> Besides, if we choose a >> different design for zope.org it might be a bit confusing when you >> jump to a wiki site with a different design - unless that doesn't >> matter. > > Well, I think this design is born from the design originally made for > zope.org, no? > So hopefully we can use something similar for all the sites. > ___ You are right Lennart - I think Jens is a little confused. :) A ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
On 10/16/06 9:32 AM, "Jens Vagelpohl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 16 Oct 2006, at 09:26, Lennart Regebro wrote: > >> On 10/16/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hm... I thought we had not made any decision as to a _zope.org_ >>> design, only a _foundation.zope.org_ design - those are two different >>> things. I thought the exact opposite. Go figure. I think the foundation site slurped the new zope.org look and feel because it was something that needed to be up sooner. > > You're definitely right on that, I just wanted to bring it up so we > don't have a lot of people starting to complain *after* the redesign > work for other microsites has been done. Besides, if we choose a > different design for zope.org it might be a bit confusing when you > jump to a wiki site with a different design - unless that doesn't > matter. > > We should have a quick show of hands throughout today to make sure we > don't end up in some squabble over this. > > +1 from me - I think the simple foundation design is perfectly fine > for the wiki microsite. > > jens Regardless, clarification and finalization would be nice. I think the work Tom did for the zope.org site should span all the *.zope.org sites. Andrew ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
On 10/16/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're definitely right on that, I just wanted to bring it up so we don't have a lot of people starting to complain *after* the redesign work for other microsites has been done. Yes, good point! Besides, if we choose a different design for zope.org it might be a bit confusing when you jump to a wiki site with a different design - unless that doesn't matter. Well, I think this design is born from the design originally made for zope.org, no? So hopefully we can use something similar for all the sites. ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Oct 2006, at 09:26, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 10/16/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hm... I thought we had not made any decision as to a _zope.org_ design, only a _foundation.zope.org_ design - those are two different things. Yes. That said, that design is better than no design, so if the skin works, I think we could quickly take a decision to use it. You're definitely right on that, I just wanted to bring it up so we don't have a lot of people starting to complain *after* the redesign work for other microsites has been done. Besides, if we choose a different design for zope.org it might be a bit confusing when you jump to a wiki site with a different design - unless that doesn't matter. We should have a quick show of hands throughout today to make sure we don't end up in some squabble over this. +1 from me - I think the simple foundation design is perfectly fine for the wiki microsite. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFM4oHRAx5nvEhZLIRAlUUAJwICCy+yWmSVQXz/05QLs8Lm3nJFACfcNO/ qq0HhhKFDcbuiFnskcjiS5Q= =SqQ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
On 10/16/06, Jens Vagelpohl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hm... I thought we had not made any decision as to a _zope.org_ design, only a _foundation.zope.org_ design - those are two different things. Yes. That said, that design is better than no design, so if the skin works, I think we could quickly take a decision to use it. + 1 from me. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.nuxeo.org/ ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Skinning the new zope 3 wiki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Oct 2006, at 01:53, Kevin Teague wrote: Hello zope-web, I'd like to help out with the effort to renew the zope.org web site (s). I've started developing a new skin for ZWiki intended for use with the new zope 3 wiki. Copying the style from the new Zope Foundation site seemed like a good place to start - it would be nice if the new microsites have a reasonably consistent look and feel. I've put up a development copy of an initial skin here: Hm... I thought we had not made any decision as to a _zope.org_ design, only a _foundation.zope.org_ design - those are two different things. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFM4RGRAx5nvEhZLIRAjJgAKC0NpXps1b7fZnzN7DKN4Nv6aNJmgCeL7M9 gtD8YtwEi8f0DXUIelETxrE= =gnmb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Also noticed the Committer Member links goes to a broken page. http://foundation.zope.org/members/committer_members.html On Oct 16, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Tom Von Lahndorff wrote: Ill look into it. On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote: On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, "Michael Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: See: foundation.zope.org This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it. Thanks Darryl and David from ZC. I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces from Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized. Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of the 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is causing the grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these pages, instead of lining up with the to header watermark. This was observed with Firefox 1.5. - Michael Bernstein Yeah, this happens to me as well. I'm cc'ing Tom to see if he might have some fixes in mind... Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Im noticing that the pages of the Foundation website are pages within pages. Meaning entire pages including the doctype, body and head tags were pasted within the site wrapper. These secondary doctype body and head tags should be removed. On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote: On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, "Michael Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: See: foundation.zope.org This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it. Thanks Darryl and David from ZC. I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces from Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized. Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of the 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is causing the grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these pages, instead of lining up with the to header watermark. This was observed with Firefox 1.5. - Michael Bernstein Yeah, this happens to me as well. I'm cc'ing Tom to see if he might have some fixes in mind... Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
That should do it. For the Foundation website though it should be on the .rightcolumn class. On Oct 16, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Kevin Teague wrote: I think I figured out an easy fix for the watermark bug. In the .content declaration of the CSS add: right: 0px; This should pin the right side of the content box to the edge of the browser window and the watermark lines up :) I've only tested this on FF and Safari on Mac, but it should work in IE6, that's a pretty stable, bug free browser ... - Kevin On Oct 15, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Michael Bernstein wrote: On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 11:12 -0700, Michael Bernstein wrote: Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of the 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is causing the grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these pages, instead of lining up with the to header watermark. Typo, sorry: "top header watermark". - Michael Bernstein ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
Ill look into it. On Oct 15, 2006, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Sawyers wrote: On 10/14/06 2:12 PM, "Michael Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 23:37 -0400, Andrew Sawyers wrote: See: foundation.zope.org This is using Darryl's magic. It was painful to get such a beast of RH 9 working (with 2 arms tied behind my back) but we did it. Thanks Darryl and David from ZC. I will need to speak with someone about getting the necessary pieces from Darryl's end into svn so we can have the whole ball of wax in svn. Great work! Very classy looking, and well organized. Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of the 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is causing the grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these pages, instead of lining up with the to header watermark. This was observed with Firefox 1.5. - Michael Bernstein Yeah, this happens to me as well. I'm cc'ing Tom to see if he might have some fixes in mind... Andrew Sawyers ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] Foundation Site
I think I figured out an easy fix for the watermark bug. In the .content declaration of the CSS add: right: 0px; This should pin the right side of the content box to the edge of the browser window and the watermark lines up :) I've only tested this on FF and Safari on Mac, but it should work in IE6, that's a pretty stable, bug free browser ... - Kevin On Oct 15, 2006, at 2:55 PM, Michael Bernstein wrote: On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 11:12 -0700, Michael Bernstein wrote: Minor consistency nit: Something seems to be changing the width of the 'columntwo' div in all the pages under 'Membership'. This is causing the grey Z-ball watermark to shift left by various amounts for these pages, instead of lining up with the to header watermark. Typo, sorry: "top header watermark". - Michael Bernstein ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web