[Zope3-Users] A online book for Zope 3

2006-08-21 Thread Baiju M

Hi all,
I was thinking of writing an online book for Zope 3.  I have no
experience in writing a book.  But I had written few successful
articles.  This is my first attempt to write an online book.
I want this to be concise book.  My two motivation books for
writing in this style is UML Distilled by Martin Fowler and
Python in a Nutshell by Alex Martelli.

I welcomes your contribution to this work.

Regards,
Baiju M
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[Zope3-Users] zc.tables integration with Zope3

2006-08-21 Thread David Pratt
Hi. I am wondering if zc.tables could not be incorporated into Zope3 
trunk. My rational for its inclusion is so that the contents views may 
be refactored to use it. The current contents view makes little sense 
without batching and sorting. The ZMI could really use this basic face 
lift to bring it in line with the fundamental views provided in its 
Zope2 counterpart. I'd also suggest that the Boston skin be given 
preference over rotterdam as the default skin for zope.


Beyond this, a batching utility package is really needed in the way that 
ZTUtils provided this support in Zope2. While schooltool has this 
support, its GPL status does not make it accessible to non GPL 
developers (that might anticipate this generic utility in the code 
base). There are some really complex packages out there but this basic 
utility is still not available in our toolset. Many thanks.


Regards,
David
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Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.tables integration with Zope3

2006-08-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 21 August 2006 15:14, David Pratt wrote:
 Hi. I am wondering if zc.tables could not be incorporated into Zope3
 trunk. My rational for its inclusion is so that the contents views may
 be refactored to use it. The current contents view makes little sense
 without batching and sorting. The ZMI could really use this basic face
 lift to bring it in line with the fundamental views provided in its
 Zope2 counterpart. I'd also suggest that the Boston skin be given
 preference over rotterdam as the default skin for zope.

zc.table still needs an iteration or two before it is ready for the trunk. I 
have started a branch for another iteration, but it will take me a while to 
complete. My goal is to cleanly include some of my enhancements (already 
checked in for demonstration), to generalize the code and make a div based 
alternative.

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.tables integration with Zope3

2006-08-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 21 August 2006 17:07, Fred Drake wrote:
 Huh?  Whatever for?  Are you planning to use zc.table for something
 other than tabular data?  (X)HTML tables are entirely reasonable for
 tabular data, which is the only use case I'm aware of.

That depends on the designer you talk to. :-) I agree with you, but I have 
this requirement.

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.tables integration with Zope3

2006-08-21 Thread Benji York

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Monday 21 August 2006 17:07, Fred Drake wrote:


Huh?  Whatever for?  Are you planning to use zc.table for something
other than tabular data?  (X)HTML tables are entirely reasonable for
tabular data, which is the only use case I'm aware of.


That depends on the designer you talk to. :-) I agree with you, but I have 
this requirement.


I don't think I'd be very happy with a div-based zc.table.
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Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.tables integration with Zope3

2006-08-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 21 August 2006 17:34, Benji York wrote:
 I don't think I'd be very happy with a div-based zc.table.

Then don't use it. It will be an alternative, of course. I will not break the 
existing API and output.

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-Users] zc.tables integration with Zope3

2006-08-21 Thread Benji York

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Monday 21 August 2006 17:34, Benji York wrote:


I don't think I'd be very happy with a div-based zc.table.


Then don't use it. It will be an alternative, of course. I will not break the 
existing API and output.


Oh!  I misunderstood.  I couldn't imagine that the current architecture 
could be coerced into allowing both styles of output.   I look forward 
to the improvements!

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