Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-03-27 Thread Benji York

Kurt Zitze wrote:

if you want to raise the userbase of zope, the first and most obvious
thing to do is, get a forum running! mailing lists are bu*** and
completly out of date. it is max cumbersome to login into your email
account to do a post and so on, i think i dont need to enumerate all
the disadvantages of a mailing list compared to a forum.


forums (and capitalization) are way too cumbersome we should switch to 
texting each other with our mobile phones

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Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-03-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey,

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
   From your argument about cumbersone logins to mail accounts it
  appears you dislike mailing lists because you use some free web-based
  email provider. Well, get a real email account and use it with a real
  email client, and all that will be gone.

Alternatively, you can use gmane.org and a news client (Thunderbird is
one) to read mailing lists. Many of the mailing lists, including this
one, are already available (this one is
gmane.comp.web.zope.zope3.user). Once you need to write to one, you do
still need to sign up to it, but you can set up your mailman
subscription to not send any messages.

On the rest of your rant, I agree that the beginner experience for
Zope 3 is suboptimal. Work is slowly progressing towards a new website
for Zope. As an alternative you might like to look at Grok
(grok.zope.org), which is based on Zope 3 as well but may be somewhat
easier to get started with. That said, our documentation is far from
complete yet, and we don't have a forum either. :)

Regards,

Martijn
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[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 candidate 1 Released

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Aspeli

Kurt Zitze wrote:

if you want to raise the userbase of zope, the first and most obvious
thing to do is, get a forum running! mailing lists are bu*** and
completly out of date. it is max cumbersome to login into your email
account to do a post and so on, i think i dont need to enumerate all
the disadvantages of a mailing list compared to a forum. i am even
not aware of how to replay to a certain message with this mailing
list. why make it difficult if it could be easy? just get a forum and
you have done 50% of the things you could do to improve the
development experience with zope.


http://news.gmane.org/search.php?match=zope
http://www.nabble.com/Zope-f6706.html

... and when you start participating actively in a project or two, 
you'll realise why a web based (only) forum is far, far sub-optimal to a 
properly archived mailing list with an NNTP and web gateway.


If you're having trouble replying to emails ... mmm

Martin

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want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book

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[Zope3-Users] z3c.widget/megrok.form character encoding

2008-03-27 Thread mictlan tecutli
hello, 

i´m using megrok.form.fields.HTML field, which uses z3c.widget to render a 
tiny_mce editor. there seems to be a problem with character encoding in some 
phase of the megrok.form.fields.HTML  z3c.widget  tiny_mce interaction. 

if i include a word with a latin character, like grabación, in the text i´m 
editing with the tiny_mce editor, and save the form, the rendered html is 
displayed as grabacioacute;n

but i´m not having any success tracking down exactly where these characters get 
encoded. 

salud, 
kevin
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[Zope3-Users] Zope 3 on Jython - Google Summer of Code

2008-03-27 Thread Georgy Berdyshev
Hello Zope developers and Zope community!

I am applying with Zope 3 on Jython improvements to Google Summer of Code.

It would be really a great help to receive some feedback on this
undertaking from
the community and also developers of Zope!

Please have a look at the following thread on the Zope GSoC malinglist:
http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/gsoc/2008-March/000136.html


Thanks in advance!

Kind regards, Georgy Berdyshv

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