RE: (313) Murder Capital ... ?

2008-01-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
I'm drawing your attention to the last sentence in the paragraph below. FAQ 0.5 from http://music.hyperreal.org/lists/313/index2.html Thank you for inquiring about 313. This list was set up by myself to be a forum for the discussion of Detroit techno artists or artists directly influenced by

Re: (313) Digital Djing

2008-01-04 Thread robin
Some interesting views from the artist-label point of view come up here. From a consumer's point of view I'd say that vinyl is not the only area of life where we are facing a transition from physical to digital objects. The same problems come up with things like books. I have two opinions

RE: (313) RE: Smallfish closing

2008-01-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Actually your name's Patrick isn't it. Sorry. -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2008 10:57 To: Leonard, Patrick; list 313 Subject: (313) RE: Smallfish closing Hello Leonard. Actually I thought the shop closed several months ago. The label

(313) Smallfish closing

2008-01-04 Thread Leonard, Patrick
Hi all, I read last night that Smallfish record shop in London is closing this month (the label will continue). I think it's a real pity, it was a great shop and one I have lots of good memories of. The best shops are those that you feel influenced you and exposed you to new types of music.

(313) RE: Smallfish closing

2008-01-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Hello Leonard. Actually I thought the shop closed several months ago. The label has indeed continued online since then and appears to be at least keeping it's head above the water. -Original Message- From: Leonard, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2008 10:52 To:

[Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread pauley
Just reading this http://www.cybernetic-broadcasting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12749p=3 It got me to thinking about laptop preformances sounding so sterile and thin, especially over a club PA where you need to feel part of the sound...I wonder if playing a blank sided record through the PA at

Re: (313) RE: Smallfish closing

2008-01-04 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
It closes at the end of January, and there's been quite a sale on for the past month or two. Mike Oliver is an email pal of mine. A pity - great shop. It's folding not because of costs, but time factors and career paths. jeff Odeluga, Ken wrote: Hello

(313) DANCE BRITANNIA

2008-01-04 Thread Martin Dust
Not perfect but OK, check the acid house expert :) http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/search/?q=dance+britanniago=Find +Programmes m

Re: (313) Murder Capital ... ?

2008-01-04 Thread Alan Heneghan
Dalston From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:56:29 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Conversation: (313) Murder Capital ... ? Subject: RE: (313) Murder Capital ... ? Did anybody actually reply about what was in the subject line of this

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Benoît Pueyo
JT Stewart a écrit : if you recorded at a super high bitrate, it would be pretty dang close. but still, what you would have is a snapshot, translated into 0's and 1's. at the micro scale, all the soft edges in an analog record get turned into jagged edges..the sound is necessarily altered

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread robin
Perhaps playing a silent record is going to far :) ... but it's a fair point. Still, if your file's digitized from vinyl you would get all the benefits of the medium in the audio quality too, I guess? I've never had any comment that the sound coming from my laptop is any different to that

RE: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Perhaps playing a silent record is going to far :) ... but it's a fair point. Still, if your file's digitized from vinyl you would get all the benefits of the medium in the audio quality too, I guess? -Original Message- From: pauley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2008 13:35

RE: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA

2008-01-04 Thread Williams, Graham
Unfortunately... Sorry, this programme is only available to play in the UK G -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2008 12:41 To: 313 313 Subject: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA Not perfect but OK, check the acid house expert :)

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
0's and 1's. at the micro scale, all the soft edges in an analog record recording, doh

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
if you recorded at a super high bitrate, it would be pretty dang close. but still, what you would have is a snapshot, translated into 0's and 1's. at the micro scale, all the soft edges in an analog record get turned into jagged edges..the sound is necessarily altered during the analog-to-digital

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Martin Dust
You know, like there's so much silence comes from an mp3/laptop that you can't hear the music... Brilliant, reminds me of this: Beans, in cans, how handy is that. Bez m

RE: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread pauley
Not even needing the hiss or crackle, just the atmosphere created by the surface, the sound of the space created by the needle/record/platter motor. A deep rumble. Laptop performances in clubs make the place space feel very empty, like being in a vacuum and needing to pop your ears, or surrounded

Re: (313) Murder Capital ... ?

2008-01-04 Thread 313
that guy and the corny scientist out all in one day. must be a full moon. no offense, but full moon was 24 dec dude... back when neil posted. its good to keep up with these things :-) -- chuck

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread robin
@robin yes yes of course, that's your preference. trust me, your resignation to the disappearance of vinyl from your life does not represent the world. Absolutely. There's plenty of room for misinterpretation here - I'm just presenting a point of view that's common. As it happens I hold two

RE: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Nik Stoltzman
Yeah, but an mp3 of vinyl crackle would be a compressed, digital approximation of the analogue source, so (assuming this argument holds water) would still sound less 'warm' than a slab of vinyl with nothing but, err, hiss and crackle on it. Like some uber-mnml m-nus release ;) But anyway, this

Re: (313) RE: Smallfish closing

2008-01-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
What's the general state of vinyl shops on the continent? Are mainland Euro shops closing at the same rate as US UK shops? MEK theREALmxyzptlk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/04/2008 06:33:27 AM: It closes at the end of January, and there's been quite a sale on for the past month or two. Mike

RE: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA

2008-01-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
bugger - maybe it'll end up on Youtube MEK Williams, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/04/2008 06:50:36 AM: Unfortunately... Sorry, this programme is only available to play in the UK G -Original Message- From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2008

RE: (313) Murder Capital ... ?

2008-01-04 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Did anybody actually reply about what was in the subject line of this thread? Whatever. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2008 14:43 To: 313 Subject: Re: (313) Murder Capital ... ? that guy and the corny scientist out all in one

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread carlile
I'm not really up my on physics, but if you zoom in far enough into an analog recording at a subatomic level aren't there discrete steps (or does it just keep going?) -Jim Quoting JT Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if you recorded at a super high bitrate, it would be pretty dang close. but still,

Re: (313) Digital Djing - Organization

2008-01-04 Thread kent williams
IF (and only IF) your MP3s are all properly tagged by artist and album, ITunes will do a good job of 1) finding them all over your computer and 2) building a directory tree with all the files sorted by artist/album. Of course, what really happens is that you end up with 300 hours of music by

Re: (313) Digital Djing - Organization

2008-01-04 Thread carlile
I've got a pretty small record collection that I sort by vibe but way too many mp3s strewn all over the place in different folders due to often restoring my pc from a backup image. I'm curious as to how you guys are organizing all your digital music? -Jim

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
totally right benoit, excellent point...although i do personally know some people who lay it down in the studio onto tape with little to no digital in the mix, but that's besides the point. the important question is whether the difference is significant, which comes down to

RE: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA

2008-01-04 Thread Nik Stoltzman
I thought it was a good programme. It covered a lot of ground with very broad strokes, but it still got me in the mood for a massive illegal warehouse rave. In fact, when it finished I rinsed out Stakker Humanoid until my ears bled. bugger - maybe it'll end up on Youtube MEK Williams,

Re: (313) Digital Djing - Organization

2008-01-04 Thread Thor Teague
Yeah. I learned that the hard way. Exacerbating the problem, in my case, was the fact that iTunes eats long filenames when it imports an mp3 into the library. So I had 50 files named Host - The Mechanica[1-50].mp3... or something. Trying to figure out airdates of 10+ year old radio shows is not an

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
there are, but they have infinitely varying shapes, intervals, etc, as opposed to digital, which is made of identical little blocks, if you will. On Jan 4, 2008 11:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not really up my on physics, but if you zoom in far enough into an analog recording at a

Re: (313) Digital Djing - Organization

2008-01-04 Thread kent williams
The best strategy is to use the OS Search function to find all the loose MP3s on your machine, and marshal them into one place, where you can use a tool like 'Tag and Rename' to get the tags right. Then let iTunes (or some other librarian program) organize them for you... On Jan 4, 2008 10:29 AM,

Re: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA

2008-01-04 Thread kent williams
Haha. Off topic, but I participated in the Iowa Caucus last night, and we had 576 people crammed into a room designed for 200, all sweating balls. I was there to help clean up, and the only thing missing from rave clean up was the cigarette butts. The poor kids who attend that school will be

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread kent williams
A needle wiggling in a groove is a continuous function of the original signal. A digital recording is a a digital piecewise approximation. In the end it doesn't really matter -- to my ears it all sounds good when the music itself is good. On Jan 4, 2008 10:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm

Re: (313) Austin Texas shops?

2008-01-04 Thread carlile
Hi Michael, My favorite shop in town is backspin records. Nice selection and run by some friendly guys. They just moved to a new location on airport blvd which I haven't visited yet but the old shop was sweet. -Jim Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Planning on attending SXSW this year and want to

(313) Austin Texas shops?

2008-01-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Planning on attending SXSW this year and want to hit some record shops as the big record convention isn't happening again until October this year. Going to try to schedule in at least one extra full day just for shopping. Interested in: 60s-70s funk/soul (45s LPs), jazz-funk/jazz-fusion, and

Re: (313) Digital Djing - Organization

2008-01-04 Thread P.A. Keur
If the new Winamp has a similar built-in Organization function, I may ditch iTunes, though, since I don't have an iPod anymore. I've always considered Winamp's sound fidelity to be superior. If you like winamp you`ll love this guide: http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/winamp/. It has a section on

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread Michael Pujos
JT Stewart a écrit : the access to music that digital files allow and all that is great when viewed narrowly -- valuing the music only and disregarding context. but it is inarguably a deeper experience which allows deeper understanding to hold a record/tape/cd in your hands than to have a

Re: (313) Digital Djing - Organization

2008-01-04 Thread Michael Pujos
Personally however I, prefer foobar2000, especially in combination with the foodiscogs plugin for tagging. :-D Pete Thanks for the mention as I wrote this plugin :) discussion/download/screenshots of foo_discogs: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=50523

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread JT Stewart
To me, this whole concept of : the music associated to a physical object makes it better does not hold. well, that's not my argument. the object does not make the music itself any better or worse. it is just a vessel that contains more cultural artifacts and other contextual/background

Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing]

2008-01-04 Thread /0
the difference is like comparing a strobe like to a fluorescent light. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: (313) Digital Djing] I'm not really up my on physics, but if you zoom in far

Re: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA

2008-01-04 Thread /0
I DIDN'T READ YOUR EMAIL, BTW (but thanks again for the read receipt, douche) - Original Message - From: Williams, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: RE: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA Unfortunately... Sorry, this programme is only

Re: (313) Murder Capital ... ?

2008-01-04 Thread /0
I hope not. I'll teach you all a lesson yet. :P - Original Message - From: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: RE: (313) Murder Capital ... ? Did anybody actually reply about what was in the

Re: (313) DANCE BRITANNIA

2008-01-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
bring the noise :-/ MEK /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/04/2008 04:34:12 PM: I DIDN'T READ YOUR EMAIL, BTW (but thanks again for the read receipt, douche) - Original Message - From: Williams, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:50 AM

(313) Wire Magazine back issues?

2008-01-04 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
looking for some old back issues of the Wire featuring 4 Hero articles #138 | DJ Spooky | August 1995 #165 | Jim O'Rourke | November 1997 anyone have these? MEK