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2018-10-19 Thread kent williams
For some reason we've had a bunch of new subscribers. I guess that is a challenge to us old timers to, uh, generate some compelling content.

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread denisedalphond
I really liked all that UR carhartt stuff. That was a pretty good idea. $$ > On Oct 19, 2018, at 13:44, David A. Powers wrote: > > Good for year, I moved to Detroit because I needed a job, and someone in > Detroit offered me a job. > Then I lost the job. Didn't have much money, it wasn't

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread David A. Powers
I agree, that's why I mentioned "sustainable." I wasn't trying to criticize UR, but just looking at the facts that markets change and you have to make enough so that folks can eat. And I have to solve this problem too, because I'm a musician myself in the current market. ~David On Fri, Oct 19,

Return To Andromeda (Full length Ambient Album)

2018-10-19 Thread David A. Powers
Folks, I'm a techno musician at the end of the day, not just a music fan, at the end of the day my job is to make music, and so I'm doing my best to not only do great work, but start my own label. Here is the first official release for Santos Y Diablos, "Return to Andromeda" a record of ambient

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread David A. Powers
Good for year, I moved to Detroit because I needed a job, and someone in Detroit offered me a job. Then I lost the job. Didn't have much money, it wasn't enough to renew my lease, then I got evicted from my apartment, and the money ran out. I was literally homeless and walking around the streets

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Fred Heutte
There is a basic misunderstanding here. Getting paid enough to cover the bills and have a reasonable life is important. Making as much money as possible is not the purpose. Detroit techno is all about retaining that difference. Twenty years ago, Sony Japan issued its crappy unauthorized and

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread David A. Powers
Fred, I don't scorn UR they are my heroes. I just WANT THEM TO MAKE MORE MONEY!!! I'm being realistic about how well the business model is doing. You can't solve a problem by pretending it doesn't exist. Making money is a problem for musicians right now--not just UR, but changes in music as a

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Denise Dalphond
Hell yeah Mike Rubin. *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* *ethnomusicologist* *schoolcraftwax.work * On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:34 PM Fred Heutte wrote: > For those who haven't seen it: > > >

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Denise Dalphond
I've never lived in Detroit, unfortunately. I didn't want to gentrify. *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* *ethnomusicologist* *schoolcraftwax.work * On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:42 PM Denise Dalphond wrote: > Mike Banks owns a museum. It's called Exhibit 3000. > > It's for

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Denise Dalphond
Mike Banks owns a museum. It's called Exhibit 3000. It's for education. So people don't get confused. *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* *ethnomusicologist* *schoolcraftwax.work * On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:39 PM David A. Powers wrote: > Denise, > > I lived in the city, I

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread David A. Powers
Denise, I lived in the city, I talk to my friends in the city every week, and I played a gig there recently. I know exactly what's going on. First of all, Red Bull, really? They literally pimp out art and artists in order to sell shitty corporate drugs that are terrible for the human body. I'm

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Fred Heutte
For those who haven't seen it: http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2017/06/drexciya-infinite-journey-to-inner-space fh

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Kevin Kennedy
David, without the rest of the world, where would Detroit artists escape to? I understand what is at the crux of your argument... But I would still consider that the vitriol comes from the telling of a local story that can and has been told not only by others, but can be told with a deeper

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Denise Dalphond
Detroiters of color definitely give a shit about techno. Your statement is completely wrong and off base. All you have to do is visit the instagram account of Underground Resistance. https://www.instagram.com/undergroundresistance313/?hl=en It is filled with Black and Brown faces. In Detroit.

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread David A. Powers
The irony of this situation is that in the big picture, even if the RA piece was produced in an unethical manner, it's still a decent introduction to Drexciya for many people, and in the US nobody has ever heard of Drexciya. Hell, I doubt many people in Detroit actually know who they are, trust

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread denisedalphond
I also write my ideas on schoolcraftwax.work There’s another essay about techno that came out a few years ago that I wrote in a book called African American Music: An Introduction. Detroiters and techno heads have read my writing and critiqued my writing at my request. I’m not working in a

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread denisedalphond
Yr Rt. > On Oct 19, 2018, at 07:29, Martin Dust wrote: > > >> On 19 Oct 2018, at 12:24, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I do not. Maybe you should read my article about Drexciya and UR and >> Moodymann in Black Lives Matter and Music: Protest, Intervention, >> Reflection. It just

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Martin Dust
> On 19 Oct 2018, at 12:24, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > > I do not. Maybe you should read my article about Drexciya and UR and > Moodymann in Black Lives Matter and Music: Protest, Intervention, Reflection. > It just came out. > > Denise Dalphond > Then there’s nothing to discuss

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread denisedalphond
I do not. Maybe you should read my article about Drexciya and UR and Moodymann in Black Lives Matter and Music: Protest, Intervention, Reflection. It just came out. Denise Dalphond > On Oct 19, 2018, at 07:00, Martin Dust wrote: > > Yes it’s real, do you not see the logical

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Martin Dust
Yes it’s real, do you not see the logical fallacy in your argument? > On 19 Oct 2018, at 11:56, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: > > Is this a real question? Dan Sicko was a actual Detroiter. > >> On Oct 19, 2018, at 05:43, Martin Dust wrote: >> >> Hi Denise, >> >> Do you feel the same about

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread denisedalphond
Is this a real question? Dan Sicko was a actual Detroiter. > On Oct 19, 2018, at 05:43, Martin Dust wrote: > > Hi Denise, > > Do you feel the same about Dan Sicko’s book? > > m

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread 313
Im with Denise on this one. ;-P C On 2018-10-19 10:43, Martin Dust wrote: Hi Denise, Do you feel the same about Dan Sicko’s book? m

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

2018-10-19 Thread Martin Dust
Hi Denise, Do you feel the same about Dan Sicko’s book? m