RE: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-27 Thread Robert Taylor
Sounds like an episode of The Wire Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: /0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2008 21:55 To: kent williams; Odeluga, Ken Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) relax re: demf gentlemen dont

RE: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-27 Thread Odeluga, Ken
http://www.discogs.com/release/66299 -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) relax re: demf Well it's pretty obvious that Kwame's problems go way beyond thinking

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2008-03-26 Thread kent williams
Given that a) the City of Detroit can't or won't support the festival in terms of paying for insurance and crowd control and b) in order to survive, the festival needs to at least break even, maybe it's the better part of valor to give Paxahau a little latitude on booking. Since it isn't the

RE: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Odeluga, Ken
] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:56 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) relax re: demf Given that a) the City of Detroit can't or won't support the festival in terms of paying for insurance and crowd control and b) in order to survive, the festival needs to at least break even, maybe it's the better

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2008-03-26 Thread kent williams
I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly it was not to be. I don't care where he dips his wick -- that's his own business. But there are plenty of ways he's loused up the business of the City as well. And I don't know all the facts of the case, either. But one thing

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2008-03-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that a) the City of Detroit can't or won't support the festival in terms of paying for insurance and crowd control and b) in order to survive, the festival needs to at least break even, maybe it's the better part

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2008-03-26 Thread M Ng
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully) and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of Paxahau, which is great. In turn, I just feel we should now be at least be supportive of

Re: (313) relax re: demf

2008-03-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:27 AM, M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully) and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of Paxahau, which is great.

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2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I think it's important to discuss both the likes and dislikes if you only discuss what you like then the things you don't get swept under the carpet and they'll think well, nobody complained Interesting that Paxahau isn't listening to these people with influence Is their sense of independence

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2008-03-26 Thread Stoddard, Kamal
From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully) and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of Paxahau, which is great. Yeah, but they live there, which means they can give support by simply

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2008-03-26 Thread Arturo Lopez
I agree with Mike and Tom. Perhaps someone could tell me: How does the festival in it's current incarnation reflect/celebrate the city and culture it is/was supposed to represent? If the current idea is just to fill up the place, then these bookings make plenty of sense. If they are actually

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2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Actually, and technically, I don't think it is DEMF afaik Carol Marvin owns DEMF what Paxahau is doing is Movement I've come to the conclusion that, although they both have taken place in the same place and the same annual dates, the festivals are two different things with two almost entirely

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2008-03-26 Thread UI Design
I can't help but compare this thread to discussions I've heard about the evolution of the Winter Music Conference.. over the years the conference has evolved completely into a festival of mass proportions. Or even comparing it to the debate I used to hear over and over again about Vinyl vs CD,

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2008-03-26 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:43 PM, UI Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evolution is part of life. but this is deevolution. tom

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2008-03-26 Thread Martin Dust
Evolution is part of life but this is deevolution. tom I'd love to see Devo at DEMF ;) Spudboy

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2008-03-26 Thread /0
genius either. - Original Message - From: kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Odeluga, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: list 313 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: Re: (313) relax re: demf I think everyone wanted Kwame to be a great mayor for Detroit. Sadly

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2008-03-26 Thread /0
that lineup is ~30 percent complete, btw - Original Message - From: M Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:27 AM Subject: Re: (313) relax re: demf From what I know, certain people in Detroit

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2008-03-26 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
AM Subject: Re: (313) relax re: demf From what I know, certain people in Detroit with influence already expressed their views (ie take a break this year and plan carefully) and Paxahau chose to go on. These people are still supportive of Paxahau, which is great. In turn, I just feel

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2008-03-26 Thread theREALmxyzptlk
k A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell. Hauling someone up on perjury charges for trying to keep a private matter private is BS -- it's the same as Clinton's impeachment. Gentlemen usually don't fire those who investigate them (ruining careers) and help waste 9 million badly needed city

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2008-03-26 Thread kent williams
Well it's pretty obvious that Kwame's problems go way beyond thinking with his dick. I never meant to justify all the other crap he's allegedly pulled. I was trying to make a pretty specific small point, not justify a whole range of high crimes and misdemeanors, either in Clinton or Kilpatrick's