Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-07 Thread Dan Bean
Only old ones. On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:37, robin wrote: No one got any new tunes then? ;) robin...

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2007-02-06 Thread /0
gosh tom, thats really terrible. (really) - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! poor white people! theyre at such a disadvantage here

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2007-02-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner
Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ. On 06/02/2007, at 3:43 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/5/07, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I am still amazed that there is a Hard Rock Cafe in Detroit. It may seem trivial, but it is nice to see Detroit with the staple attractions of other

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2007-02-06 Thread Matt Chester
Alright, y'all convinced me. Any recommendations for places to stay that can be booked now? David Powers wrote: There will be a 22-hour party at Buzz Bar this year... at which I'll be playing... should be a hot party. Most people I know agreed that Agave was the highlight party of last

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ. i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact, that guy is a tool and is one of the things i hate more about pittsburgh's hipster music scene. tom

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2007-02-06 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation? On 06/02/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ. i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact, that guy is a tool and is one

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2007-02-06 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
Tom wrote: pittsburgh has one now, i think theyre just giving them away. i challenge you guys to name 10 pop music artists from pittsburgh. dont count jazz since hard rock doesnt. On Feb 6, 2007, at 9:45, Aidan O'Doherty wrote: i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation? On

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
he's from pittsburgh, the only reply to my half jesting challenge to name any pop artists from pittsburgh in the discussion about hard rock cafe! to On 2/6/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm confused. where does girl talk come in to the equation? On 06/02/07, Thomas D.

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread robin
No one got any new tunes then? ;) robin... Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: he's from pittsburgh, the only reply to my half jesting challenge to name any pop artists from pittsburgh in the discussion about hard rock cafe! to On 2/6/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Martin Dust
Tom, we are sending over Def Leppard now, you can have em... m On 6 Feb 2007, at 15:35, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: he's from pittsburgh, the only reply to my half jesting challenge to name any pop artists from pittsburgh in the discussion about hard rock cafe! to

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Joel Gajewski
was better at Ed Debevick's. :p J - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 5, 2007 10:47:40 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! I don't understand the point of those

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.
uh-oh... tom and i agree on something again! On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ. i couldnt disagree more vehemently. he makes me feel ill. in fact, that guy is a tool and is one of the things i

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread /0
i like him already - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ. i

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2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/6/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i like him already im sure youd love it, its absolutely awful. tom

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2007-02-06 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I don't mind fun, hipster stuff. He comes into the equation as being from Pittsburgh - Sienna Miller's favourite city, not. ;) On 07/02/2007, at 12:18 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Girl Talk! He rox! Fun DJ. i couldnt disagree more

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-06 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He comes into the equation as being from Pittsburgh - Sienna Miller's favourite city, not. ;) ill personally sock sienna miller if i ever see her. tom

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2007-02-06 Thread /0
she'd probably beat you down :) - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:35 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! On 2/6/07, Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He comes

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Joel Gajewski
, February 2, 2007 11:09:35 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Well, in regards to tourism, Detroit is changing. Having worked in economic development (more on the creative marketing end), progress is always slow. However, Detroit is making progress. There are signs all over

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/5/07, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I am still amazed that there is a Hard Rock Cafe in Detroit. It may seem trivial, but it is nice to see Detroit with the staple attractions of other cities. pittsburgh has one now, i think theyre just giving them away. i challenge

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2007-02-05 Thread robin
I don't understand the point of those Hard Rock cafe chain things. Like a themed upmarket mcdonalds init? Why's that considered an attraction? OT I know. robin... Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: On 2/5/07, Joel Gajewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I am still amazed that there is a Hard

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/5/07, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand the point of those Hard Rock cafe chain things. Like a themed upmarket mcdonalds init? Why's that considered an attraction? well the idea can be cool: a spot to eat food in with lots of music memorabilia, especially stuff related to

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2007-02-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
I just saw something on tv the other day about the Seminole nation (Florida Indian tribe) owning the Hard Rock Cafe chain. Just checked in on wikipedia - yep, they bought it at the end of last year. Plus, the Seminoles never signed a peace treaty with the US Gov. - means they were never all

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw something on tv the other day about the Seminole nation (Florida Indian tribe) owning the Hard Rock Cafe chain. Just checked in on wikipedia - yep, they bought it at the end of last year. Plus, the Seminoles never signed a peace

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Wy OT (unless this somehow comes around to Mad Mike's ancestors) Right, but the entire tribe never surrendered. Some did and some did not. You should read the entire article you posted: The situation grew worse. In August 1835 Private Kinsley Dalton (for whom Dalton, Georgia is

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should read the entire article you posted: i did. the end of the second seminole war was like this: Colonel Worth recommended early in 1842 that the remaining Seminoles be left in peace if they would stay in southern Florida. Worth

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2007-02-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Tom - the Seminoles, as a whole, never signed a peace treaty. Also, they were not all removed from the Florida swamps. They were in poverty but from that they have sprung up to become probably the richest First Nations people in the entire US. And they own the Hard Rock Cafe chain. Their

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
they rose up from nothing like everyone else. Because no other group in the world has those kind of circumstances. Have a Nice Day, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's up

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2007-02-05 Thread Fred Heutte
://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/ENT04/70131052/0/ENT04 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! so whats going

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2007-02-05 Thread Fred Heutte
tie afterparties to the fest is my idea from last year . . . although with the fair number of lame-o party producers in town it's bound to be a difficult process . . . but there are cool ones too like te Fi-Nite guys, Organic, the Buzz Bar, etc. just to name some that have passed my rigorous

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-05 Thread Fred Heutte
PROTECTED] To: Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 5:08:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Aidan O'Doherty wrote: DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million (over-estimated) DEMF 2001: 1.7 million DEMF 2002: 1.7 million Movement

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2007-02-05 Thread David Powers
There will be a 22-hour party at Buzz Bar this year... at which I'll be playing... should be a hot party. Most people I know agreed that Agave was the highlight party of last year. Not all the mixing was spectacular (though appendics shuffle and ryan elliot were good I think, it's all a bit

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2007-02-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
of circum! stances. Have a Nice Day, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Tom - the Seminoles, as a whole, never signed a peace treaty

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2007-02-03 Thread John Sokolowski
The Detroit News article below has way more info than the Freep article: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070202/ENT01/702020402/1033 Much better sound - Funktion 1. They've been planning for a long time. Partial lineup out Feb 15. Beatport stage. New stage facing the river

(313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
so whats going on? they supposedly did alright last year and have had since june to get it together. its now february, the festival is under 5 months away and nothing yet. WHY tom

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread /0
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/ENT04/70131052/0/ENT04 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! so whats going

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2007-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
10:49 PM Subject: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! so whats going on? they supposedly did alright last year and have had since june to get it together. its now february, the festival is under 5 months away and nothing yet. WHY tom

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2007-02-02 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
) what's up with the festival?!?!?! so whats going on? they supposedly did alright last year and have had since june to get it together. its now february, the festival is under 5 months away and nothing yet. WHY tom

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070131/ENT04/70131052/0/ENT04 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! so whats going on? they supposedly

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2007-02-02 Thread robin
Aidan O'Doherty wrote: DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million (over-estimated) DEMF 2001: 1.7 million DEMF 2002: 1.7 million Movement 2003: 630,000 Movement 2004: 150,000 Fuse-In 2005: 44,920 Hmmm I'm not sure how accurate any of those figures is, apart from maybe the last one where they had

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2007-02-02 Thread Matt Chester
, 2007 10:49 PM Subject: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! so whats going on? they supposedly did alright last year and have had since june to get it together. its now february, the festival is under 5 months away and nothing yet. WHY tom

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2007-02-02 Thread robin
i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans properly too. robin... Matt Chester wrote: So what do people there recommend for any of us thinking of coming over? I'm trying to decide if it's worth it

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2007-02-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
11:14 To: Matt Chester Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans properly too. robin... Matt Chester wrote: So what do people

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2007-02-02 Thread Nick Hardie
PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2007 11:14 To: Matt Chester Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans properly too. robin... Matt Chester

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2007-02-02 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
to go, but that's the reality. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2007 11:14 To: Matt Chester Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this earlier

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2007-02-02 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
:14 To: Matt Chester Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans properly too. robin... Matt Chester wrote: So what do

RE: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Is that a loaded question? ;-) -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2007 11:31 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: robin; Matt Chester; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! hard to believe that a modern metropolis

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2007-02-02 Thread robin
Odeluga, Ken wrote: Is that a loaded question? ;-) :) I've been once before. I loved Detroit. There's a certain positivity about the regeneration of the city that I felt that kinda chimes with how the north of England felt when leaving behind the dark days of the 80s. How much of that

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2007-02-02 Thread Aidan O'Doherty
: robin; Matt Chester; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! hard to believe that a modern metropolis doesn't try to tap in to tourism. detroit has its selling points, doesn't it? On 02/02/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if they got they're act

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/2/07, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort this earlier in the year to allow overseas people organise travel plans properly too. this is why im complaining! when i first started going there was lots more international heads because

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2007-02-02 Thread kent williams
All you lot foreigners: Every year since 2000, if you got on a plane the last weekend in May you'd have seen a huge, awesome show in Detroit. You'd shop at Submerge and Melodies and Memories, you'd visit the Heidelberg Project, you'd see Mike Huckaby DJ -- four or five times if you wanted -- and

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2007-02-02 Thread Kelly B. Delaney
Even if there isn't a festival, I know that we Pittsburghers will just keep going to Detroit every Memorial Day weekend. At the very least, you can hang out with us! On 2/2/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All you lot foreigners: Every year since 2000, if you got on a plane the last

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/2/07, kent williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All you lot foreigners: Every year since 2000, if you got on a plane the last weekend in May you'd have seen a huge, awesome show in Detroit. You'd shop at Submerge and Melodies and Memories, you'd visit the Heidelberg Project, you'd see Mike

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Joel Gajewski
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 5:08:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Aidan O'Doherty wrote: DEMF 2000: 1.1 to 1.5 million (over-estimated) DEMF 2001: 1.7 million DEMF 2002: 1.7 million Movement 2003: 630,000 Movement 2004: 150,000 Fuse-In 2005: 44,920 Hmmm I'm

RE: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Cc: robin; Matt Chester; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! hard to believe that a modern metropolis doesn't try to tap in to tourism. detroit has its selling points, doesn't it? On 02/02/07, Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if they got they're act

Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?!

2007-02-02 Thread Klaas-Jan Jongsma
On 2-feb-2007, at 15:30, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: And the Clique will be serving grits on the side. dood, i so cant wait to get some Clique. best homefries ever! adepts voice of Homer Simpson MM The Clique. oohh /adepts voice of Homer Simpson

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2007-02-02 Thread tydesign
well-sorted in advance of the weekend. *shrugs Joel - Original Message From: robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aidan O'Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 5:08:49 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Aidan O'Doherty

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2007-02-02 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Feb 2, 2007, at 12:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compuware Oy, I wouldn't be so happy about that. Several of my coworkers escaped form there with some nice stories :) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim - mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2007-02-02 Thread tydesign
Can't comment personally on Compuware. I'm sure there is a level of dissatisfaction with all places and certainly I wouldn't absolve General Motors either. Big business is big business, but a part of what's needed for Detroit to come back too, right? I don't want to launch into politics or

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2007-02-02 Thread Steward, Tim
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:33 PM To: Matt Kane's Brain Cc: Joel Gajewski; robin; Aidan O'Doherty; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! Can't comment personally on Compuware. I'm sure there is a level of dissatisfaction with all places

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2007-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/2/07, Steward, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say there are a few nice stories about Compuware. But the word for the festival is Better sound they are Having 4 stages maybe eliminating the underground stage And the sound being designed by funktion one of the UK. good sound is nice.

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2007-02-02 Thread Steward, Tim
A press release is scheduled for Feb 15 -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:52 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! On 2/2/07, Steward, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would

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2007-02-02 Thread /0
Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! On 2/2/07, Steward, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would say there are a few nice stories about Compuware. But the word

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2007-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 2/2/07, /0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you even read the article I linked to last night? it said info would come in february. relax. uh, yeah but when someone else has more info than theyre releasing i dont see why bringing up these questions isnt relevent. and Im sure paxahau is

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2007-02-02 Thread Cyclone Wehner
for a few days. Love to go, but that's the reality. -Original Message- From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2007 11:14 To: Matt Chester Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! i'm thinking of coming over this year too. i wish they'd sort

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2007-02-02 Thread Cyclone Wehner
? ;-) -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2007 11:31 To: Odeluga, Ken Cc: robin; Matt Chester; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's up with the festival?!?!?! hard to believe that a modern metropolis doesn't try to tap in to tourism

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2007-02-02 Thread Cyclone Wehner
I've been 5 times and it's an epic journey for someone from Australia - and Japan. And it's way more expensive to go to Detroit than travelling to anywhere in Europe. More advance notice is necessary. I know a lot more people here would go if there was more certainty every year. It's a