RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-16 Thread Cobert, Gwendal
Talking about techno-related books... just begun reading Laurent Garnier's Electrochoc, very promising ! I don't know if it has already been translated from French though... but even if you don't read French, you can at least find his excellent playlists here : http://www.pedrobroadcast.com/

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-15 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
Coming back to this late. But basically I agree with the below statement it clarifies what I was trying to say earlier. The book was well written and informative. I found out a lot about ecstacy that I didn't know and a lot about how some sub-genres got started. I just couldn't stomach his ideas

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-09 Thread FC2 Richards
THE BOOK STILL SUCKS! -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture -- Original Message

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-09 Thread yussel
thanks for contributing. On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, FC2 Richards wrote: THE BOOK STILL SUCKS! -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 9:11 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World

Re: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-08 Thread Matt MacQueen
Everyone's music collection is based around 'phases'. Reynolds just does an excellent job capturing his phases in print. Don't diss because he went through some phases that you didn't. I don't have anything against phasing of techno. I'll just diss then cause I think it's a wack book. It's

Re: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-08 Thread yussel
all fair points matt. i guess i'd rather read about crazed culture with music as a secondary. hence my love for lester bangs, hunter thompson, ect i think writing about music requires a presentation within another context (be it biographical, anidotal, whatever...) for me- an actual

Re: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-08 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Matt MacQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (that's what music journo's do, i admit, and it's usually more out of their desire to generate more ink than a true proper look at something for what it is) just killed his earnestness and

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread FC2 Richards
THIS BOOK SUCKS, DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY. There is no music content in this book, I can't believe that I read it all. It is mostly about drugs and parties. I felt I wasted my time reading it, and my money even though mine was borrowed from a friend. Time IS money baby. I guess if you want to

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
I read it and didn't like it either. It was entertaining at times, but too biased to be a book about electroinic music in GENERAL. It was like reading a thesis paper where the writer is trying to prove that electronic music is linked to raves which in turn are linked to drugs and therefore it

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread Roland van Oorschot
At 16:55 5-12-2003, you wrote: I read it and didn't like it either. Ah... thank you all for the comments about that book. I'll just leave it in the bookstore then. R. --- http://www.funxiun.com .dark.elektronix.

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread Redmond, Ja'Maul
Sorry for all the grammatical errors. I was hastengly trying to type all of that before I left for a meeting. :) But I think you got my point. Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread robin
- He kept making a point of saying that EDM music and drugs - GO together - and any attempt to separate the two is not successful. i.e. concept - albums have no place in edm ,,,tracks are being better than songs??? - There's way too many reference to Ecstacy as been GOOD for EDM and - even a

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Isn't this the same book that at the end Simon Reynolds claims that Big Beat is going to be the lifesaver of dance music? MEK robin

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread yussel
I gotta disagree with all the hatin' goin on about this book. To immediately address Mr. Knight's concerns, I blieve the book was first published around 97-98, which is when big beat was a new and exciting sound. And judging from where electronic music went after big beat in terms of mass appeal,

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
To immediately address Mr. Knight's concerns, I blieve the book was first published around 97-98, which is when big beat was a new and exciting sound. And judging from where electronic music went after big beat in terms of mass appeal, seems as though Mr. Reynolds wasn;t that far off.

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread yussel
Oh, I completely agree that Reynolds had an agenda. And like I said, I basically disagreed with every conclusion he came to. BUT...while his thesis may have been severly flawed, the research that he presents (ie- the history of ecstacy culture) is still compelling and well written. This is all

RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
Don't diss because he went through some phases that you didn't. I'm not dissing him because we didn't go through the same phase (or get stuck in the same one) I actually had a flirtation with Big Beat but came to my senses when I realized that there were records with real soul and not some

Re: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture

2003-12-05 Thread Forrest L Norvell
Yussel said essentially the same things I wanted to say, but I wanted to respond to a couple of points: On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 02:02:45PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I'd like to know how many people who went to all the Chemical Bros. and Fatboy Slim shows back in the heyday of