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Hi there- I've been lurking since the beginning of 313 (Morgan Geist's first post maybe?) I love Detroit techno (and Detroit). I have a show on intergalactic.fm's Dream Machine that usually features a track or two from a Detroit artist. (I even got to check out the Packard Plant the first time I

Re: OMG OMG NEW JOHN BELTRAN!!!

So good, thanks for tip! Didn't come up on my bandcamp feed because I follow the other account. Was sorry to hear about the issues with Peacefrog but hopefully that has been resolved now. https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/42358?comments=1 Reuben On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 21:02, Manish Miglani

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Utterly beautiful. Thanks for sharing! Best, mm. From: Jason Brunton Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 2:59 PM To: kent williams Cc: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: OMG OMG NEW JOHN BELTRAN!!! Drums are fantastic on these tracks. Sent from my iPhone On 24 Oct

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Drums are fantastic on these tracks. Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:42, kent williams wrote: > > This is absolutely lovely, send the man your money. > > https://johnbeltranmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-season-series-ep-autumn

Re: 313 Digest 15 Oct 2018 03:21:49 -0000 Issue 4415

I know Bob, he’s working at Black Corporation with Roman on the Dekard’s Dream project Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Oct 2018, at 20:33, Arturo Lopez wrote: > > is Bob Rogue still on here? He's been in Tokyo for like 15 years now. You > might know him from that super fancy "Deckard's Dream"

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http://www.astrangelyisolatedplace.com/blog/2018/7/8/portals-stories-from-tokyo > On 16 Oct 2018, at 12:28 am, Patrick Wacher wrote: > > Bah! Now you have ruined me! ;) > > It’s been 15 years since I was last

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

I didn’t say that Black people would be, should be, or are offended. Read my original statements. I’m confused by your rage. Better yet, you’re confused by your rage. Denise > On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:33, Joe Marougi wrote: > > Even though English is my second language I just looked it up

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Even though English is my second language I just looked it up and I feel that it was an accurate description of her intentions based on >50% of the synonyms being a match. Could I have used another word? Sure, there are many synonyms to choose from. I think “not being fair” and “not applying

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Yeah ok, and based on popular opinion Lil’ Wayne is the best rapper. Again, name one black person here that was offended by the video...still waiting ;) On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:20 AM wrote: > Denise’s opinions are widely shared around the world and are based on > research. > > > > On Oct

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Denise’s opinions are widely shared around the world and are based on research. > On Oct 24, 2018, at 13:18, kent williams wrote: > > I think it's fine to disagree, even to argue, but putting on my 313 List > Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List Administrator Sceptre, let me >

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I think it's fine to disagree, even to argue, but putting on my 313 List Administrator Crown and picking up my 313 List Administrator Sceptre, let me say this: I think that calling other list members 'unscrupulous' is over the line. And in this particular case, patently absurd. Denise has strong

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All still well here in Dublin Jason.. been too long ! E > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:58, ja...@iridite.com wrote: > > Heh, they're all coming out of the woodwork today! > > Alrighty Eamonn? > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:55, Eamonn Doyle mailto:d...@d1.ie>> > wrote: >

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Agreed, However I do feel that unscrupulous race-baiting should be called out just as much as actual racist views/comments. Next subject? 邏 On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM ja...@iridite.com wrote: > Heh - you obviously weren't part of our.discussion about Dixon Avenue > Basement Jams

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The record still bangs. and as for me being mad, or offended. hm how do I say this. First pardon my crassness: When as a black man in america, has getting mad about how two allies perceived a beef/misunderstanding about some black shit between themselves ever done anything for

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Heh, they're all coming out of the woodwork today! Alrighty Eamonn? On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:55, Eamonn Doyle wrote: > http://drexciyaresearchlab.blogspot.com/ > > Probably the most exhaustively researched site / blog about all things > Drexciya out there - *[caution: written by a white

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That is beautiful (as we’d all have expected). Good heads up Kent. Robin > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:42, kent williams wrote: > > This is absolutely lovely, send the man your money. > > https://johnbeltranmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-season-series-ep-autumn

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

http://drexciyaresearchlab.blogspot.com/ Probably the most exhaustively researched site / blog about all things Drexciya out there - [caution: written by a white Irish guy] http://drexciyaresearchlab.blogspot.com/

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

The only drama I want in my life is this: https://www.discogs.com/HM-Drama-EP/release/6784 On Wed 24 Oct 2018, 17:48 ja...@iridite.com, wrote: > Heh - you obviously weren't part of our.discussion about Dixon Avenue > Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :) > > ANYWAYlet's move

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Heh - you obviously weren't part of our.discussion about Dixon Avenue Basement Jams a year or so ago on Facebook :) ANYWAYlet's move off the insta-drama and on to the music..much love, massive respect, nuff said Jason On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:42, kent williams wrote: > Tom Cox got

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Yep, trust John Beltran to calm us all down. Classic Beltran right there. On Wed 24 Oct 2018, 17:42 kent williams, wrote: > This is absolutely lovely, send the man your money. > > https://johnbeltranmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-season-series-ep-autumn >

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Sounds great thanks Kent ! Eamonn / D1 > On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:42, kent williams wrote: > > This is absolutely lovely, send the man your money. > > https://johnbeltranmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-season-series-ep-autumn >

OMG OMG NEW JOHN BELTRAN!!!

This is absolutely lovely, send the man your money. https://johnbeltranmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-season-series-ep-autumn

Re: Why Drexciya Took Detroit Electro Underwater

Tom Cox got the fuck out of the 313 list when the getting was good. He's still as opinionated as ever, still doing battle with the sucka MCs (aren't we all?), but I think he mostly stays out of trouble these days. I'm trying to remember when he posted to 313 last. Something like 15 years ago? On

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I was glad I wasn't drinking coffee at that very moment. My screen would've been covered. On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:41 PM Joe Marougi wrote: > Bring on Tom! 藍 > > Were you offended Jwan? Kevin? Anyone? > > > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:38 AM jwan allen wrote: > >> HA! >> >> >> On

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Bring on Tom! 藍 Were you offended Jwan? Kevin? Anyone? On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:38 AM jwan allen wrote: > HA! > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:36 PM ja...@iridite.com > wrote: > >> Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm and measured >> response in situations like

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HA! On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:36 PM ja...@iridite.com wrote: > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm and measured > response in situations like this. > > > > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:18, Aidan O'Doherty > wrote: > >> Ladies and gentlemen, we've only got the band back

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> On 24 Oct 2018, at 17:36, ja...@iridite.com wrote: > > Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm and measured > response in situations like this. > Proper LOL

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Where's Tom Cox when you need him? He's always got a calm and measured response in situations like this. On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:18, Aidan O'Doherty wrote: > Ladies and gentlemen, we've only got the band back together and already > we're squabbling worse than Fleetwood Mac > > Denise,

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Ladies and gentlemen, we've only got the band back together and already we're squabbling worse than Fleetwood Mac Denise, Moxie is RA's go-to-person to narrate their docs. Yes, it would have been better if they had used a Detroit native and artist, but there are a myriad of reasons why that isn't

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Name one who was fucking offended by the video?? Go ahead, I’ll wait... Your ignorance is truly astonishing. That video was dope, informative and above all RESPECTFUL. I suppose my “way of thinking” hasn’t caught up to me yet because I’m still tight with my D peeps. I put out records with and

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What about people of color who are on this list? You don’t know how all this old man thinking could be making anyone feel. It’s not a white list! WTF > On Oct 24, 2018, at 11:58, Joe Marougi wrote: > > I’m saying I’d rather continue to not post much at all than to spew racist > views like

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“The paradox of black cultural movements -- Techno, Hip Hop, Jazz, Blues etc -- is that it is dependent on the majority culture -- i.e. mostly white -- to support it, because they are the ones with the numbers money. Remaining true to that culture without diluting it is always a challenge,

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I’m saying I’d rather continue to not post much at all than to spew racist views like you do. Apparently you’re not getting the hint from others that have been trying to point this out to you more respectfully so I’ll take one for the team with this approach. Couldn’t care less what you think of

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Pathetic is one word that comes to mind when I recall Joe Marougi’s past contributions to this listserv. Are you sad that I’m smart or triggered by truth? Denise > On Oct 24, 2018, at 11:32, Joe Marougi wrote: > > Wow Denise you must really be fun at parties. What the hell are you

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Are we doing interdictions? If so; Greetings. My name is Joe Marougi and my artist name is Joe Babylon. I founded the Plug Research label back in 1994 with my friend and dj partner Allen Avanessian. I used to hire Detroit artists to play at parties in Los Angeles back in the mid 90’s as an

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Wow Denise you must really be fun at parties. What the hell are you talking about? That was an amazing video tribute to Drexciya and the “oppressive white woman” was blowing them the whole time with mad props!? Maybe you’re forgetting a few things: - RA (or no one at all for that matter) are

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I don't think that the answer to the questions Denise raised is feeling bad about being white. My own answer is to try and be conscious about how being a white person (in the US or Germany or wherever) means that you don't experience what people of color (and minority cultures/communities in

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Hello everyone - my name is Jason, I'm from Glasgow and I've been on the list since the 1990's (can't remember exactly when) I produce music mostly under my own name and run a label focussing on Glasgow based artists called Iridite - www.iridite.com I also run a small store called Signal Sounds

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It’s healthy to question our perspectives and good to acknowledge the ways that people with white skin do not suffer. Even if it feels awkward or uncomfortable sometimes, it’s that way for everyone, and it’s better than ignoring other peoples’ experiences. And we as techno fans have the

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Hello new'- and old'sters. Was just wondering if I ever „properly" introduced myself here. Apart from „Hi, I’m Ronny. I like Techno.“ The recent Drexciya thread, articles and thoughts made me think. You know, I’m a caucasian, born and raised around Hamburg/Germany. Hence my personal