Re: v13+ - How to do a 'Find in array' with a picture array?

2017-07-13 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
I don't really understand you're using icons as keys, but if you do go with a hashing solution (clever idea!), the HashTools component from some years back supports text, blobs, pictures, and documents. It offers a variety of hash functions. Instead of an 'expensive' cryptographically oriented

Re: v13+ - How to do a 'Find in array' with a picture array?

2017-07-13 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
perhaps you should use an array of pointers (pointers to pictures) instead. > 2017/07/13 2:03、Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: > any ideas? code? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ:

Thinking through object/text fields: Findings summarized, advice solicited

2017-07-13 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
Having just started looking at object fields and learned a few things, I have a few thoughts. For background, I've been using 4D's C_OBJECT and ARRAY OBJECT for some time, and now I'm looking at object fields. I think that I've gotten a grip on some of the details through experimentation, help

RE: User environment "List of Tables" Stuck - TeamViewer - Yech!

2017-07-13 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech
I seem to have found the culprit!: TeamViewer A client wanted me to use this to access his system remotely. I was previously considering buying TeamViewer for our support (over Webex). What a giant PITB! Randy Engle XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE! -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech

User environment "List of Tables" Stuck - Arrrgghhh!!!

2017-07-13 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech
Just today in the last hour or two: When viewing user environment, display the "List of Tables" It appears in the middle of the screen, small squarish window. Can't move it, can't enlarge it. Cant' scroll through list. Can select displayed tables, nothing else "List of Tables" menu item has

Re: Folder separator constant

2017-07-13 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:47 PM,Wayne Stewart wrote: > Mind you it took me a long time to discover the Folder separator constant!! Now here is a great feature implemented in the wrong way. It confuses a programmers logical sensibility. “Folder separator” constant. It is a “constant”. Constants

Re: Very Simple Way to Access Server with Two Copies of Remote from the Same Machine

2017-07-13 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
Wayne: There are lots of commands and features that we become aware of but, if we don't put them into use, we tend to forget them. There's just too many commands, for me at least, to keep track of. Good case in point is Choose. 4D snuck that in with V11 but I never used that version (I refer to

Re: Very Simple Way to Access Server with Two Copies of Remote from the Same Machine

2017-07-13 Thread Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech
Mind you it took me a long time to discover the Folder separator constant!! Regards, Wayne [image: --] Wayne Stewart [image: http://]about.me/waynestewart On 14 July 2017 at 09:13, Wayne Stewart wrote: > Doug, > > I think you've

Re: Very Simple Way to Access Server with Two Copies of Remote from the Same Machine

2017-07-13 Thread Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech
Doug, I think you've been asleep at the wheel for a while!! That's dated 2011 and I'm sure I can remember doing it in v2004. Regards, Wayne [image: --] Wayne Stewart [image: http://]about.me/waynestewart On 14 July 2017 at 09:06, Douglas von Roeder via

Very Simple Way to Access Server with Two Copies of Remote from the Same Machine

2017-07-13 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
kb.4D.com is a wealth of info about 4D and, as much as I try to learn and incorporate new tools and techniques, this one passed under my radar. I was reading some of Miyako's comments on the Forum a few months ago and he mentioned the ability to run two copies of 4D Remote on the same OS on the

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
"FogBugz is probably the one I like the most. " I've been using FB for about 10 years but for the bug tracking features not the wiki features. It's an invaluable means of tracking issues, tracking progress, marking changes in code, version management, and invoicing. The price is good up to the 5

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
Of course you are. I don’t mind Jira too much, but it’s horrible for customers. And I wasn’t happy making a career out of learning how to customize the customer view. > On Jul 13, 2017, at 2:31 PM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > We're in the process of writing

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
Haven't found one that I love yet. FogBugz is probably the one I like the most. We've been using ZenDesk but it really sucks (Jira is awesome in comparison). Jira really isn't bad... again, I was just being snarky. I'm fond of most all of the Atlassian tools (especially Confluence). We're in

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Keith Goebel via 4D_Tech
We have been using Confluence and JIRA for several years now, and love them. With one exception: We setup our entire Online Help system in Confluence; a button click in 4D takes you to the relevant Confluence page. Worked really well until recently when they decided to prevent url link logins.

RE: v13+ - How to do a 'Find in array' with a picture array?

2017-07-13 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
Another approach instead of comparing MD5 hashes, could be to compare the pictures directly using the EQUAL PICTURES command (created in v13): http://livedoc.4d.com/4Dv15.4/help/Command/en/page2647.html if(Equal Pictures (icon{1};pic1;$mask)) // do something for Pic1 End if if(Equal Pictures

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
What do you like? On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Jira sucks. > > -- > Jeffrey Kain > jeffrey.k...@gmail.com > > > On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:26 AM, David Adams via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > ...Wow, thanks for all of

RE: Getting Computer and OS Info

2017-07-13 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
And to get the model name on Windows you can use WMIC like this: WMIC CSPRODUCT GET NAME http://www.microcenter.com/tech_center/article/6090/how_to_find_your_computer_model_number_in_windows_8 -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group

RE: Getting Computer and OS Info

2017-07-13 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
> Not sure about the Model Name. Try this on Mac: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=48861 Not sure about Windows... -Tim ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive:

RE: Getting Computer and OS Info

2017-07-13 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
For the OS Version, use these approaches: Windows: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77398 Mac: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77646 Not sure about the Model Name. -Tim -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech Sent: Thursday,

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
That was meant as a joke. Emacs sucks. No vi sucks. Windoze sucks. That said, I think Jira is overly complex, but that's just my opinion. :) Jeff -- Jeffrey Kain jeffrey.k...@gmail.com > On Jul 13, 2017, at 11:12 AM, Tilman Haerdle via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > That

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Tilman Haerdle via 4D_Tech
Jeffrey, you're free to have your opinion. Let's put it that way: in our use case, Jira is the perfect tool for the job and it significantly improved our productivity and the quality of our deliverables. YMMV and so I guess with those tools it's just like with cameras: There are Canon

Re: Someone help me out, how do you get good information out of 4D

2017-07-13 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
Oh come on know many are still around it is just that the circumference has changed Chuck Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Informed Solutions, Inc. Fax: (617) 232-1064

RE: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech
> From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Kain > via > > Jira sucks. That's a statement, it would be interesting to know why do you think so? Or are you convinced the TAOW (https://taow.4d.com/Home/home.en.html) by 4D is better? (To throw in a complete

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
Jira sucks. -- Jeffrey Kain jeffrey.k...@gmail.com > On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:26 AM, David Adams via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > ...Wow, thanks for all of the information about the features of Confluence > and Jira. I'm new to them, so pretty much everything you mentioned is new >

Re: 4D Not Seeing A Mounted Network Drive

2017-07-13 Thread Randy Jaynes via 4D_Tech
If this is 4D Server running as a *service* on Windows Server 2012R2, you have to be sure that the user under which the server runs has the network drive mounted. This has been done for me by IT people at the places I’ve run into this, so I’m not really sure exactly what it is they are doing,

Re: Function to return the date/time of the next scheduled backup

2017-07-13 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
This is what I've been using, is it incomplete? (Just the one line here, obviously there's more to the method): *GET BACKUP INFORMATION*(Next backup date;$date_pointer->;$time_pointer->) ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ:

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Tilman Haerdle via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > we at extragroup use Confluence for several years now and apart from > intermittent glitches we are very happy with it. ...Wow, thanks for all of the information about the features of Confluence and

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Tilman Haerdle via 4D_Tech
David, we at extragroup use Confluence for several years now and apart from intermittent glitches we are very happy with it. It's our go to product for internal and external documentation. We also use it to prepare meetings, do brainstorming in a team and many other things. We love the

Re: Wiki software: Confluence

2017-07-13 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
I second that confluence and Jira are brilliant. They do a 10 user version for 10 USD trouble is its additive and 25 users is expensive. Download a postgres appliance from turnkey linux. Set up a virtual machine in hyper v. Install. -- View this message in context:

AW: Function to return the date/time of the next scheduled backup

2017-07-13 Thread Flury Olivier via 4D_Tech
Not directly out of a Backup.xml file, but GET BACKUP INFORMATION also returns the date for the next scheduled backup: http://doc.4d.com/4Dv14/4D/14.4/GET-BACKUP-INFORMATION.301-2511955.en.html -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] Im Auftrag von