Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 14 /01 /2021, at 18:42, Graham Langley via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I find it odd that a subset of developers on this "forum" is a good thing. Let time be the judge of that. > I love the discuss site, No one forces you to participate here! > We should also welcome

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Graham Langley via 4D_Tech
Considering how small the 4D developer community is, I find it odd that a subset of developers on this "forum" is a good thing. I love the discuss site, and it's the place to be for anything V18. We should also welcome "smart-arse newbies". Pretty sure we've all whined in the past about the lack

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Lahav, > On 14 /01 /2021, at 10:24, lists via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > and Jörg, carful with labeling us dinosaur/old timers, we are just well > seasoned….. You’re right. :o) I’m sure all the dumb-click-newbies see that different. Cheers Jörg

RE: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread lists via 4D_Tech
I'm not on here, so I wouldn't know , and Jörg, carful with labeling us dinosaur/old timers, we are just well seasoned. Lahav -Original Message- From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:13 PM To:

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
> I must have missed an important episode here, because I don’t understand what > that statement means. Was there a controversy at some point? Was it recent? > Or years ago? There was some heated debate recently regarding html vs pdf documentation… I’m assuming that is what is referred here.

Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses

2021-01-13 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
To resolve any confusion, "resource" = a "thing" not a "Resource" as in the Classic Mac OS. In this case, it's a license to use 4D WP. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-910-4084 On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:55 PM Douglas von Roeder wrote: > David: > > If only user group "X" has access to a resource, it

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech
Yeah, I still monitor this list, but there is very little activity. And if there’s no activity, what’s the point? I actually like the new discuss forum. In fact, I like it a lot. I like the ability to post pictures and formatted code. I also like that there are lots of engaged 4D developers,

Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses

2021-01-13 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
David: If only user group "X" has access to a resource, it would seem to be a bug if someone not in that group could access that resource. Perhaps a call to 4D tech support could provide clarification. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-910-4084 On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:39 PM David Rose via 4D_Tech

Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses

2021-01-13 Thread David Rose via 4D_Tech
Douglas, Whether or not we restrict access to 4D Write via the method you suggested, the first user who logs on after a reboot grabs the 4D Write license whether that user actually uses 4D Write or not. David > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:37:32 -0800 > From: Douglas von Roeder > >

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
Just remember, we were all smart ass newbies at some point. Sill here but mostly on discuss Chuck Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Informed Solutions, Inc. Fax: (617) 232-1064

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2021-01-13 Thread Clive Wilson via 4D_Tech
Still here. From Florida USA Clive Wilson ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub:

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech
> count me in :) Yup, me too. Cheers from Germany, Bernd Fröhlich ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses

2021-01-13 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
David: While it's true that 4D WP is not a plugin, access to 4D WP is controlled in the same manner as the plugin — either on an individual user basis or by creating a group and granting access to that group. With that in mind, you might be able to either move the user into a group that has

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Doug Cottrill via 4D_Tech
sure, count me in. DKC > On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I count as an old timer. > > Count me in. > > Jody Bevan > >> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> G’day, >> >> Are

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
I count as an old timer. Count me in. Jody Bevan > On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the

Managing 4D Write Pro licenses

2021-01-13 Thread David Rose via 4D_Tech
We have a 4D Server v17R6 database running in a Windows-only environment. We have a single 4D Write Pro license. Only one out of our dozen or so users uses 4D Write Pro. Now that 4D Write is no longer a plug-in, we have a problem managing access to that license. When 4D Server is launched, the

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech
Yep > On Jan 13, 2021, at 4:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? > > I’m following the lead of my

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech
I haven’t left Neil > On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? > > I’m following the

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Ken Geiger Gmail via 4D_Tech
G’day to you! I’m still here as well. Ken Geiger Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Reiner Kief via 4D_Tech
So am I, since the CompuServe times. And I'm not planning to quit. Reiner Kief Connectivity GmbH Germany Am 13.01.21, 14:04 schrieb "4D_Tech im Auftrag von Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com im Auftrag von 4d_tech@lists.4d.com>: I’m on the list as well.

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Pascal Geuns via 4D_Tech
Another ping from an old timer :-) Kind Regards Pascal Geuns QualitySSL Meet me on LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/pascalgeuns > On 13 Jan 2021, at 14.04, Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I’m on the list as well. > >

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
I’m on the list as well. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation > On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse

Re: PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread nug via 4D_Tech
count me in :) > On Jan 13, 2021, at 7:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > G’day, > > Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent > discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? > > I’m following the lead

PING of life...

2021-01-13 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
G’day, Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum? I’m following the lead of my neighbour David Adams and don’t participate in the forum any more. Question is, are there other oldies willing to