Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-12-06 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Problem solved! I'd built the server with the latest R3 version while the test server was running Hotfix 4. I re-built the server with HF4 and all is right with the world. Robert > On Dec 6, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Error: “The

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-12-06 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
I know I’ve swapped .4DC files for minor structure updates in the past on built-servers; yet, I just swapped out the entire “Server Database” folder in the built client and I’m now setting an error that I’ve never seen before. I’m sure I could copy over the massive server build and be done with

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-17 Thread Keith Goebel via 4D_Tech
Robert, don’t know it this is relevant to your situation but many years ago, to get around the problem of losing the backup settings when installing a new built application version, I setup a system where, on quit, I stored the backups xml file in the data folder (or a record in the data - too

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-17 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
I only rebuild the entire client and server if there has been a 4D version change ie moving from 16.3 to 16.4 etc. Otherwise I build the server and just copy across the new .DC file from the Server Database folder. You need to make sure compiling on same version as deploying. Never had a problem

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
to restore local backup settings (because the backup settings file is always located inside the application's preferences folder) I wrote this https://github.com/miyako/4d-utility-backup-dialog to get/set all settings as a single object (object notation required). I have a similar solution

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-16 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Thanked Kirk, Tim & Tim! :) This is what I thought you guys might say…. So, do you use the XML to do the build or the standard GUI? R > On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:39 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > The “Best Practice” is to do what 4D TS says

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-16 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Oct 16, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Robert wrote: > I recently started to use built client/server more often since I inherited a > client that was already doing that. I was told by another developer that when > doing a structure change that I can simply swap the .4DC file and I’m done. > 4D TS

Re: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Robert, I wouldn't presume to argue with Tim on best practices but will say I've been doing those sorts of updates to my built server app for - years. I've never has an issue that tracked back to it. Yet. The main benefit is users don't have to wait through downloading a new set of

RE: Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-16 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
Just to clarify - The suggestion from 4D Technical Support is to include 100% of the entire application package that is built by 4D. Typically this is done by archiving the application in a ZIP file or on a DMG and transferring the archive to the destination machine where it is unarchived. You

Built Server—Best Practices...

2018-10-16 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
I recently started to use built client/server more often since I inherited a client that was already doing that. I was told by another developer that when doing a structure change that I can simply swap the .4DC file and I’m done. 4D TS suggests that this is not wise and that I should probably