Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-06 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 06 /08 /2021, at 23:12, James Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > 4D was Mac-only when I started using it. Good onya! ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive:

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-06 Thread James Crate via 4D_Tech
On Aug 5, 2021, at 8:15 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> On 05 /08 /2021, at 01:59, James Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> 4D has been around since the 80s, … > > That means we could talk about the decades passed for a long time. > >

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-05 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Jim, > On 05 /08 /2021, at 01:59, James Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > exist 40 years from now, why should I care? Just curious, did you start developing in 4D on Mac or Windows? Cheers ** 4D Internet

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-05 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
Jim, > On 05 /08 /2021, at 01:59, James Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > 4D has been around since the 80s, … That means we could talk about the decades passed for a long time. Sorry, but I don’t have the time for this. Cheers Jörg

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-04 Thread James Crate via 4D_Tech
On Aug 4, 2021, at 2:18 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >> On 04 /08 /2021, at 01:52, James Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> wrote: >> >> I’m curious why that should matter. > > Think about it a bit harder and it will come to you. 4D has been around since

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-04 Thread Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech
> On 04 /08 /2021, at 01:52, James Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I’m curious why that should matter. Think about it a bit harder and it will come to you. > Do you not appreciate some slight modernization of the language for yourself? Hey extending the language and

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-03 Thread James Crate via 4D_Tech
On Aug 3, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > … the implementation of the additional programming paradigm? > > Is there any information available in regards of the extended subject? > > So, how many new and young (age < 40 years) developers have been

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-03 Thread nug via 4D_Tech
that is more encouraging. the upfront cost is not minimal, and there is more then one class here's hoping something comes of this. Chip > On Aug 3, 2021, at 11:20 AM, THOMAS BENEDICT wrote: > > The description of Online Training for Beginners >

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-03 Thread THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech
The description of Online Training for Beginners https://us.4d.com/training-categories/online-training shows five 90 minute sessions at a cost of USD429. Tom > On 08/03/2021 7:50 AM nug via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > and attending one class - was there a cost? > does not a

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-03 Thread nug via 4D_Tech
I think a better metric would be: How many new sales of Server, web server, 4D for iOS (not just pro dev) are being made - to NEW customers, rather then upgrades or sales to existing customers (devs) Chip > On Aug 3, 2021, at 10:12 AM, THOMAS BENEDICT wrote: > > This year 4D Inc in San Jose

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-03 Thread nug via 4D_Tech
and attending one class - was there a cost? does not a new developer make Chip > On Aug 3, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Am 03.08.2021 um 16:12 schrieb THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>: >> >> "According to

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-03 Thread Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech
Am 03.08.2021 um 16:12 schrieb THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>: > > "According to their Sales VP“ relevant words here being ACCORDING and SALES VP … I would love for this to be true, but I do have serious doubts.

Re: Count of young new developers after ...

2021-08-03 Thread THOMAS BENEDICT via 4D_Tech
This year 4D Inc in San Jose has been offering more “Beginning 4D” classes than they have in recent years. According to their Sales VP they have all been full, with plenty of developers fresh out of CS school. So the demographics may be changing. Tom Benedict > On 08/03/2021 6:51 AM nug via