Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-19 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
Ah, nostalgia. The Mac had (has?) a function called Munger (“rhymes with plunger”) that did general memory manipulation. http://mirror.informatimago.com/next/developer.apple.com/documentation/mac/Text/Text-329.html Jeremy Jeremy Roussak j...@mac.com > On 17 Feb 2017, at 19:56, bob.miller---

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
Kirk: No idea. I got an email that allowed me to resubscribe to the list and I did so, apparently successfully. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I got the bounce warning too. Do we know what caused it?

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
I got the bounce warning too. Do we know what caused it? On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Douglas von Roeder wrote: > Tom: > > Interesting… > > I got unsubbed from the list last week because of too many bounce backs. > That's sorta weird because I've been using the same gMail account for over >

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
I’d like to thank Tim for helping with this. I never would have thought it was a contact that needed to be deleted! -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 > On Feb 17, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >

RE: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread bob.miller--- via 4D_Tech
Per Tim Penner > The new behavior you see is called munging the address Wow, a new tech word! Actually not new at all - the origin per Wikipedia is actually in 1958 at MIT. Geez, where was I? "Mung or munge is computer jargon for a series of potentially destructive or irrevocable changes to a

RE: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
Hi Lee, You may have a contact in your address book with the address of 4D_Tech@lists.4d.com and a display name of "4D iNug Tech"... If so it is likely that your email client is auto-replacing the From field in the list of emails using the display name from the contact... That was what was goin

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
Whatever you did fixed the issue. Thanks! https://www.dropbox.com/s/22eh2ueu3umf186/Screen%20Shot%202017-02-17%20at%2010.57.30%20AM.png?dl=0 > On Feb 17, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Timothy Penner wrote: > > In outlook the from address shows up like this: > http://imgur.com/a/logbQ > > The old "From" h

RE: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Timothy Penner
In outlook the from address shows up like this: http://imgur.com/a/logbQ The old "From" header was the actual sender even though the origination was lists.4d.com (this can be problematic for some email servers because it looks like spam). The new "from" header is the actual lists server was a di

RE: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Timothy Penner
Hi Cannon, Yes this was a change I implemented earlier this week when I upgraded the mailing list software to resolve an issue with respect to DMARC policies. I may be able to get the original "From" to show up again for everyone except for those sending from a domain with a DMARC policy set to

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Douglas von Roeder
Tom: Interesting… I got unsubbed from the list last week because of too many bounce backs. That's sorta weird because I've been using the same gMail account for over a decade. "Click harder", perhaps? -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Actually, here’s another screenshot that shows when the change happened and what it looks like before and after. Is this what everyone else is seeing in Apple Mail? -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 4

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
I’m using Apple Mail. I uploaded a screenshot showing what what I’m seeing: -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 ** 4D Int

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Pierre Coulombe via 4D_Tech
That’s what I getting as well. > On 17 Feb 2017, at 11:54 AM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Cannon, > > I'm getting From: 4D Tech and CC to the original poster. > > I've also noticed that some of my posts to 4D Tech list get bounced. I should > cut back on my wil

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech
Cannon, I'm getting From: 4D Tech and CC to the original poster. I've also noticed that some of my posts to 4D Tech list get bounced. I should cut back on my wildly offensive SIG lines, I guess. -- -- Tom Dillon

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
> Le 17 févr. 2017 à 14:54, Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > Has anyone else noticed a change in the list? When I view messages coming > from the list in Mail, the From field is always “4D iNUG Technical”, making > it difficult to see who actually sent the messag

Re: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Geiger Gmail via 4D_Tech
> that: > "4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com>; im Auftrag von; Cannon Smith via > 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>" > > It's a German Outlook version, "im Auftrag von" means "on behalf of". > > In the headers there is presently (

RE: iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech
lf of". In the headers there is presently (showing only a part): MIME-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Subject: iNUG List "From" Change Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 06:54:55 -0700 To: 4D iNUG Technical <4D_Tech@lists.4D.com> List-Id: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech.li

iNUG List "From" Change

2017-02-17 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Has anyone else noticed a change in the list? When I view messages coming from the list in Mail, the From field is always “4D iNUG Technical”, making it difficult to see who actually sent the message. All messages since the one sent by Jeff Kain on February 13 at 2:50 PM (subject “Re: Error Mess