Re: OB commands, confirming a few points

2017-01-11 Thread JPR
[JPR] > Thanks for confirming what I'd feared, that there are missing features and > that they've been missing for several years. I fully agree with you, David! And this problem is recurrent! Since I know 4D (1984), it has always been missing features,and I'm still waiting for missing

Re: 4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread Justin Carr
And you also need to run the application once from a writeable area before you move it to the non writeable media. > On 12 Jan 2017, at 12:38 pm, Spencer Hinsdale wrote: > > i think the question is how to make it run. first you check the checkbox, > "Do not display

Re: 4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread Wayne Stewart
Thanks, I'll have to check that out Regards, Wayne Wayne Stewart about.me/waynestewart On 12 January 2017 at 13:38, Spencer Hinsdale wrote: > i think the question is how to make it run. first you check the checkbox, > "Do not display warning when structure file

Re: 4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread Spencer Hinsdale
i think the question is how to make it run. first you check the checkbox, "Do not display warning when structure file is in read only". then you write some code to open a writeable data file and remember where it is. :) > On Jan 11, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Wayne Stewart

Re: 4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread Wayne Stewart
Hi, I think the question is not only data file but structure as well. Problems: Storage of lists Logs Preferences Regards, Wayne Wayne Stewart about.me/waynestewart On 12 January 2017 at 13:09, Spencer Hinsdale wrote: > The v15 R4 Upgrade docs show features to

Re: 4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread Spencer Hinsdale
The v15 R4 Upgrade docs show features to store the Data File Path in User Prefs, etc... ftp://ftp-public.4d.fr/Documents/Products_Documentation/LastVersions/Line_15R4/VIntl/4D_Upgrade_v15_R4.pdf

Re: 4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread Wayne Stewart
Hi, There is no way to do this. 4D writes into the application directory. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, Wayne Wayne Stewart about.me/waynestewart On 12 January 2017 at 12:36, John DeSoi wrote: > Hi Piotr, > > >> On Jan 11, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Piotr

Re: Initiating a new process

2017-01-11 Thread John DeSoi
Hi Arnaud, > On Jan 11, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Arnaud de Montard wrote: > > Hi John, > true, very often I would scratch my head: "is it called? where?"ā€¦ until > Vincent de Lachaux saved my hair by showing a nice use of 'Method called on > error' on 4dbb. Shortly, the method

Re: 4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread John DeSoi
Hi Piotr, > On Jan 11, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Piotr Chabot Stadhouders > wrote: > > So, my question is (again) : > Does anybody know of a way to run an application build with 4D Volume Desktop > in a write protected citrix environment, without using virtual store and >

Re: JSON schema and some object format examples for thought/discussion

2017-01-11 Thread David Adams
And, yes, my manic stream of emails *is* very much the equivalent of an unboxing video ;-) "Hey guys! I'm checking out the C_OBJECT commands today, let's open the docs!" ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ:

Re: JSON schema and some object format examples for thought/discussion

2017-01-11 Thread David Adams
...and take the prior as a sketch. Still working out the best way to organize type descriptors in this case. I want to be able to figure out the raw JSON type, if it's an array, what type it goes into in 4D (most important for arrays), and if there is any kind of extra type magic ("abstract" type)

Re: JSON schema and some object format examples for thought/discussion

2017-01-11 Thread David Adams
...in 4D code, something like this for defining the base object's basic components: // Object_RegisterRootObject OBRegister_RegisterObject (Object is RootObject;1;"Object_New";"Object_ToText") C_BOOLEAN($required) C_BOOLEAN($optional) $required:=True $optional:=False OBRegister_RegisterObject

Re: Combined Getter and Setter

2017-01-11 Thread bernard
I have published a component on Forum4D with that comment : This component emulates 4D standard commands for objects such as OB Set or OB Get to add access to properties or sub-objects by path with dot notation. It has been clearly inspired by OBJ_Module of Cannon Smith but differs by : - it

JSON schema and some object format examples for thought/discussion

2017-01-11 Thread David Adams
I've been in a couple of threads recently regarding 4D's object and JSON commands. For background, I use JSON extensively outside of 4D and quite a bit in 4D. Until now, I've used the NTK 2.x JSON commands or rolled some simple things by hand with templates and PROCESS 4D TAGS. I've been trying to

Re: OB commands, confirming a few points

2017-01-11 Thread David Adams
Hey Kirk, thanks for the post. I'm absolutely _not_ coming to JSON with a 4D perspective. Quite the opposite. JSON is great for many, many things. I'm just used to have tons of options for parsing it and converting it. You get that in , usually with multiple options. It's just weird that 4D

Re: OB commands, confirming a few points

2017-01-11 Thread David Adams
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:04 AM, JPR wrote: > [JPR] Thanks for confirming what I'd feared, that there are missing features and that they've been missing for several years. It's heartening to hear that new and powerful features are on their way. That's great! 4D has been

Re: [off] battery backup and missing files

2017-01-11 Thread Charles Miller
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Chuck Miller < cjmil...@informed-solutions.com> wrote: > They have admitted that previously on different machine it was virus > detective that quarantined the exe inquisition. I had given instructions on > white listing 4d Stuff > > > Thanks and regards > Thanks

Re: [off] battery backup and missing files

2017-01-11 Thread Chip Scheide
A power failure along with a battery failure *could* result in file corruption, NOT deletion. Deletion requires: - an automated system (anti-virus for example) to explicitly delta the file - a user explicitly deleting the file - reinstallation of the OS - system recovery (maybe) I would not

[off] battery backup and missing files

2017-01-11 Thread Chuck Miller
Hi All, I have a customer that has an APC backup attached to server (Windows). The company hat provides support is stating that due to a power failure the 4D application EXE file was deleted. I think this is smoke and mirrors and that something else is going on. Anyone ever hear of power

[ANN] Pluggers Software releases Canvas Plugin 2.2

2017-01-11 Thread Rob Laveaux
Canvas Plugin is a plugin that provides a rich toolbox for drawing objects inside a plugin area and adding interactivity to those objects. Its focus is on being a versatile developer tool, that allows you to create custom user interface controls such as custom buttons, animated menu's, gantt

[ANN] Pluggers Software releases NTK Plugin 3.1

2017-01-11 Thread Rob Laveaux
NTK Plugin has been updated to version 3.1. This update includes more new features and some bug fixes. - New commands for working with JSON Web Tokens (JWT). Generate and validate JSON Web Tokens. - New JSON commands: JSON Copy, JSON Clear, JSON Update and JSON Equals. - Gzip Compress Blob now

Re: OB commands, confirming a few points

2017-01-11 Thread Kirk Brooks
David, On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:01 PM, David Adams wrote: > It seems > ā€‹ ā€‹ > impossible to determine the type of an array stored in a 4D "object" using > native 4D commands. Full stop. If that's true, I have to say that I'm a bit > dumbfounded. If you need to know the

Re: 4D v13 on Sierra

2017-01-11 Thread Jim Medlen
An issue that I am aware of is that on Sierra when copying and pasting into a form field it looks as if there is an additional space after the highlighted text which is not there. Another way to describe it is that the curser is not positioned immediately after the text and floats the distance

Re: Initiating a new process

2017-01-11 Thread Kirk Brooks
Hi Olivier, Nice post too. My email que works much the same way. BTW - I gather from the photo 4D Inc. creates little 3D replicas of their French users - do you all do the same for the rest of us? On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:25 PM, Olivier Deschanels < olivier.deschan...@4d.com> wrote: > Hello

Re: OB commands, confirming a few points

2017-01-11 Thread JPR
[JPR] > From: David Adams Hi David, > but he doesn't seem to have had time to respond. OK, I apologize ;-) But in fact, I do not have time... Before giving some explanations, I would like to point out that while Objects are widely used in DB4D and Wakanda, this concept is

4D Volume desktop v15/v16 in write protected folder

2017-01-11 Thread Piotr Chabot Stadhouders
Hi, 4D v15.3, Windows I know in the past (4D v13 / v14) It wasn't possible to use an application, build with 4D volume desktop, in a write protected environment. However, when dealing with hosting parties delivering citrix environments, they almost always demand applications to be installed

Re: Windows users

2017-01-11 Thread Koen Van Hooreweghe
Hi Ferdinando, An other way to look at it: store the local machine IP in your data upon startup of the client. And eventually the disconnect when quitting. The advantage is you can have a history of which client connected from which IP. HTH Koen Op 11-jan.-2017, om 07:48 heeft stardata.info

Re: Datepicker widget

2017-01-11 Thread info
> Iā€™m looking for a better date picker widget (native 4D code) that has direct > month and year selection. > > The one I have requires scrolling through months one-at-a-time. did you see this announcement? Publication of 4D Progress & 4D Widgets source code