Re: Migrating Tables with Relations Between Structures

2017-04-05 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
when you copy multiple tables in the structure editor, you get the table as well as the relation. pasting it back to the structure editor removes all ancillaries such as indexes and links, but the plugin entry-point allows you to re-create them.

4D V12.5 OK with Windows 10

2017-04-05 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
A client using V12.5 is starting to adopt Windows 10 and has asked about going to V12.6 since the newer version, apparently, resolves "the Windows 10 tiny print problem that 12.5 has." The Cert Matrix for 12.6 states that 12.6 is "not compatible" with 8.1 and does not list Win 10. Is 12.6 OK to

Re: CALL FORM and CALL WORKER ideas (Was: 4D World Tour - Get off the fence)

2017-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
I also thought the discussion on subforms was excellent too. I have to admit that I've never even looked at them, but they are definitely a game-changer as well. So, not a new feature but definitely new to me. -- Jeffrey Kain jeffrey.k...@gmail.com > On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:49 PM, David Adams via

CALL FORM and CALL WORKER ideas (Was: 4D World Tour - Get off the fence)

2017-04-05 Thread David Adams via 4D_Tech
Thanks for posting about the show, it sounds like a really solid couple of days. Likewise to all of the other, similar posts here today. I noticed as a theme a lot of excitement about CALL FORM and CALL WORKER. I'm pretty stoked about them and would really appreciate hearing from people how they

Re: Google Address Lookup/ Autocomplete

2017-04-05 Thread Sujit Shah via 4D_Tech
It's a shame that Geonames.org could not develop further. Has a very simple web service API but does not go beyond city names. I will have a closer look at the google pricing - I thought I was well within the threshold Thanks for your tips and posts as always. On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 at 12:50 am,

RE: Is this post making to the iNUG?

2017-04-05 Thread Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech
Tom, I got a laugh out of this post, and although not sure why, it reminded me of a quote I like to use a lot: "I'm not here, I've gone to look for myself. Should I return before I get back, tell me to wait!" Steve * Stephen J. Orth

Re: Is this post making to the iNUG?

2017-04-05 Thread Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech
Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech wrote: >I am doing a test because the last few posts to the iNUG have not >appeared in the digest email that I receive. If it comes in, I'll tell you. -- -- Tom Dillon

Re: Is this post making to the iNUG?

2017-04-05 Thread Kenneth Geiger via 4D_Tech
Hi Tim, Yes, your post is showing-up. Best, Ken On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > I am doing a test because the last few posts to the iNUG have not appeared > in the digest email that I receive. > > This is a test. > > Tim > >

RE: Is this post making to the iNUG?

2017-04-05 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
Please don't use the digest for checking if your email is sent/received. The digest can be delayed for up to 24 hours because the digest is only sent out after either 10 messages or at the end of the day. So if we only get 9 messages on a day then the digest would be sent at midnight. Use an

Is this post making to the iNUG?

2017-04-05 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
I am doing a test because the last few posts to the iNUG have not appeared in the digest email that I receive. This is a test. Tim Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com

Re: [OFF] Hardware advice Was: 4D World Tour 2017

2017-04-05 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
On 5 Apr 2017, at 19:52, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > If it was my personal money, I'd probably find a used MacBook Pro from 2014 > or 2015, fully loaded. If the purchase is part of a budget, I'd wait for the > forthcoming "Kaby Lake" revision to the MacBook Pro

Re: 4D World Tour 2017 (OFF) Hardware advice for the latest 4D Development

2017-04-05 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I don’t even recognize the guy in the mirror. How could you that guy is me;) Chuck -- - Chuck Miller Voice: (617)

Re: [OFF] Hardware advice Was: 4D World Tour 2017

2017-04-05 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Yeah, what he said. On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > If it was my personal money, I'd probably find a used MacBook Pro from > 2014 or 2015, fully loaded. If the purchase is part of a budget, I'd wait > for the forthcoming "Kaby Lake"

Re: [OFF] Hardware advice Was: 4D World Tour 2017

2017-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
If it was my personal money, I'd probably find a used MacBook Pro from 2014 or 2015, fully loaded. If the purchase is part of a budget, I'd wait for the forthcoming "Kaby Lake" revision to the MacBook Pro along with a dock/hub. I have the entry level 2014 13" MBP with "only" 2 cores and 8

Re: 4D World Tour 2017 (OFF) Hardware advice for the latest 4D Development

2017-04-05 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
That’s the laptop I bought after the 2016 announcement. I.e., the one before. I also havne’t upgraded to Sierra. Sometimes I don’t even recognize the guy in the mirror. > On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I just purchased the following:

Re: 4D World Tour 2017 (OFF) Hardware advice for the latest 4D Development

2017-04-05 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
I just purchased the following: MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) Processor 2.5 GHz Intel Core i7 memory 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 Graphics Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB I had a similar tricked out 2011 machine (16 gig ram, 1 terabyte SSD, replaced dvd with 240 Gig sad). I am really happy with this

4D World Tour - Get off the fence

2017-04-05 Thread Justin Will via 4D_Tech
I highly recommend going to the 4D world tour. There is always at least 1 tidbit that you walk away from events like this that makes the whole trip worthwhile and JPR and Add are both fantastic presenters with tons of valuable content. So if you are on the fence, get off the fence and sign

Re: Question about passing JSON to 4D

2017-04-05 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > have you tried... > > C_OBJECT($body) > WEB GET HTTP BODY($body) > ? > it might work if you are lucky... > ​ I did and I'm not. ​In this case it looks like it's undocumented because it doesn't work. In v15

Re: 4D World Tour 2017

2017-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
Agreed - very glad I went also. This was a really good seminar. I hadn't been to a World Tour before -- JPR, Add, and everyone from 4D were great. A lot is changing very quickly in 4D, and JPR said v16 is just a stepping stone to what's coming. Now is not the time to fall behind... Jeff --

Go to the World Tour 2017!

2017-04-05 Thread Ed Hammond via 4D_Tech
All, The 4D World Tour 2017 just breezed through Chicago and it's got me thinking about how our user interface is designed. So much has been added over the last few versions and there is so little time to explore and understand them all yourself. If you are at all serious about your 4D

4D World Tour 2017

2017-04-05 Thread David Porter via 4D_Tech
I just saw the 4D World Tour 2017 Day 2 State-of-the-art training presentation in Chicago. Jean-Pierre Ribreau and Add Komoncharoensiri did a great job explaining and demonstrating many recent changes to 4D. I am currently reviewing my notes, and going over the documentation and examples on

Re: Migrating Tables with Relations Between Structures

2017-04-05 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
Hi Peter, I have not implemented this, but I'm contemplating it for a component that would need to initially create some table structure in the host component. If you want to export/import a subset of tables, it seems not too hard to export the XML structure and then parse it to create a new

Re: Google Address Lookup/ Autocomplete

2017-04-05 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Sujit, A couple of things about addresses to be aware of when using google. First is google doesn't validate an address. Think navigation. If my primary interest is getting TO a place I'm not worried about delivering the mail or whether the address is correct. I only care about figuring out where

Re: Question about passing JSON to 4D

2017-04-05 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Miyako, Thanks very much for pointing me in the right direction. Let me share how I've got this working. It's better but still feels a little kludgey. On the javascript side here's how I changed the post method: var postData = JSON.stringify(woData); $.ajax({ url: '/workorder', type: 'POST',

Re: Migrating Tables with Relations Between Structures

2017-04-05 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
Hi John Thanks for that suggestion. I tried that but in a complex structure it’s quite a footery and unsystematic process. You’ve got to identify tag blocks indirectly by UUID and so on and I found it didn’t save much time over just redrawing the relations manually. It probably works better

Re: Migrating Tables with Relations Between Structures

2017-04-05 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
You could export the XML structure definition and then edit it to only include the tables and relations you want. Then import it into the target structure. John DeSoi, Ph.D. > On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:34 AM, Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Let’s say you have a

form fields and variables with rounded borders

2017-04-05 Thread Piotr Chabot Stadhouders via 4D_Tech
Hi, Is there a (smart) way to set rounded borders to fields and variables on a form? In other apps I am seeing the use of rounded borders for fields a lot. I know I can set border to none and put a rounded rectangle beneath, but I was hoping for something easier. Also, I often see fields

Migrating Tables with Relations Between Structures

2017-04-05 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
Hi I visited this subject a few years ago and was wondering what people prefer to do in this situation. Let’s say you have a group of tables with complex relations. You want to copy them from one structure to another as a coherent block, retaining the relations. What’s the best way ? - drag

Re: 4D Compiler

2017-04-05 Thread Nigel Greenlee via 4D_Tech
David Thanks for the insight. I think i might try that-day 2 and half already of this! Hopefully the compile with ‘all vars are declared should show me what is not declared(!)…i would love to be able to run my code(which i spoke about on here) that now auto sets the declarations of variables