date:20170816

Re: UTF-8 to ASCII during data export issues

2017-08-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech

also there is a chance that your "encoding" attribute doesn't match the XML 
content.
I find it hard to believe that a program exists which can't process UTF-8.

or maybe you are using BLOB (in which case the content is not UTF-8),
but the "encoding" says that it is, hence the error.

in that case, you should use text and export as UTF-8.

> 2017/08/17 11:27、eachilgers via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
> Could there be one setting to do this, or must I ‘scan’ each word in the data 
> to be exported ?




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Re: UTF-8 to ASCII during data export issues

2017-08-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech

try blob instead of text.

> Compatibility note: Beginning with version 12 of 4D, when you use BLOB type 
> parameters, the command automatically considers that the character set used 
> for BLOBs is MacRoman. For better efficiency, it is strongly recommended to 
> use Text type parameters for which processing is carried out in Unicode mode.

http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16/4D/16.1/PROCESS-4D-TAGS.301-3375971.en.html

> 2017/08/17 11:27、eachilgers via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
> Could there be one setting to do this, or must I ‘scan’ each word in the data 
> to be exported ?




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UTF-8 to ASCII during data export issues

2017-08-16 Thread eachilgers via 4D_Tech

V13.6 W7 pc
How do I ‘dumb down’ rich text characters when creating an xml from data (text) 
in records ?  
Because the -other- program that needs to ‘read’ the xml generates an error 
when encountering characters like: 
é, É, á, ë, ç etc. then stops importing. 

I assume when the method is creating the xml (process 4D tags), these 
characters need to be changed to plain e, E, a, c  even if that is creating a 
‘wrong’ or none existing word, e.g. : curaçao —> curacao; reëel —> reeel

Could there be one setting to do this, or must I ‘scan’ each word in the data 
to be exported ? 
like: USE CHARACTER SET(“us-ascii;0)
 if so when must this be called ? or after finishing restoring the CHARACTER 
SET ?

ernie hilgers(aruba)


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v12 & v13 - HLists

2017-08-16 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech

I have an Hlist,
1 menu item has a submenu (just one level), with 3 possibilities

In both v12 and v13 I have the following code:
GET LIST ITEM($List_Ref;*;l_Selected_Item_Ref;$Item_Text->)  // works
f_Action_Selected:=Not(utl_is_Empty ($Item_text))  // works
$Parent_Ref:=List item parent($List_Ref;l_Selected_Item_Ref)  /works

If ($Parent_Ref>0)  //the selected item is a sub-list item
List item parent($List_Ref;$Parent_Ref;$Parent_Ref;$Parent_Text->) // 
works v12, not v13

in v12 Parent_Text gets a value.
in v13 not so much.

any ideaS

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Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech

Thanks Tai.

That's really all I was trying to figure out in the first place.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Tai Bui via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Bugs reports have already been made on the expand/collapse all shortcuts.
>
> ACI0097204: [136792] Discrepancy Between Observed Behavior and Documented
> Behavior
> - Doc says that shortcut on Mac OS is Command+Click, that doesn't work but
> Control+Click seems to work. (32 bit)
>
> ACI0097205: [136790] Collapse All Shortcut not Working in 64 Bit 4D
> - The issue that you guys are describing.
>
> Best Regards,
> -Tai B.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Chip
> Scheide via 4D_Tech
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:55 AM
> To: 4D iNug Technical
> Cc: Chip Scheide
> Subject: Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?
>
> lost functionality - **SHOULD** be a bug...
> of course that is when it is not a feature  :)
>
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 05:41:59 -0700, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech wrote:
> > A HA!
> > Now, is it bug or is it a feature?
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:17 AM, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech <
> > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Kirk,
> >>
> >> 32 vs 64 bit.
> >>
> >> The redesigned window in 64 bit doesn't have this functionality.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >>
> >> [image: --]
> >> Wayne Stewart
> >> [image: http://]about.me/waynestewart 
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16 August 2017 at 20:19, bernard--- via 4D_Tech
> >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did not know that snippet.
> >>> It works for me with V16R3 on my MacBook Pro on macOS Sierra.
> >>>
>  Le 11 août 2017 à 00:34, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
>  <4d_tech@lists.4d.com
> >>>
> >>> a écrit :
> 
>  In prior versions when working with a form and the Property List is
>  displayed I could show/hide all panes on the list by holding the
> >> Control
>  (not the Command) key and clicking on one of the pane triangles.
>  This doesn't work for me in v16.
> 
>  I've tried on two different Macs, one running Sierra and the other
>  Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think
> of.
> 
>  I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may
>  have
> >>> either
>  set or unset to cause this? Really annoying.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
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Creating a document error -61 OS X

2017-08-16 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech

I am trying to create a document, on disk, in:
~:library:application support:4D:
(this is the path returned from GET 4D FOLDER)

I tested, and changing from GET 4D Folder, to Temporary Folder 
for the base path, the file will be written without an issue.

It is probably permissions, BUT *I* can read/write/delete there.
Anyone know what permission level/user permissions the 4D 
application uses to write a file?

This is 4D v13, single user.

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RE: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Tai Bui via 4D_Tech

Hi,

Bugs reports have already been made on the expand/collapse all shortcuts.

ACI0097204: [136792] Discrepancy Between Observed Behavior and Documented 
Behavior
- Doc says that shortcut on Mac OS is Command+Click, that doesn't work but 
Control+Click seems to work. (32 bit)

ACI0097205: [136790] Collapse All Shortcut not Working in 64 Bit 4D
- The issue that you guys are describing.

Best Regards,
-Tai B.




-Original Message-
From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Chip Scheide 
via 4D_Tech
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 6:55 AM
To: 4D iNug Technical
Cc: Chip Scheide
Subject: Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

lost functionality - **SHOULD** be a bug...
of course that is when it is not a feature  :)

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 05:41:59 -0700, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech wrote:
> A HA!
> Now, is it bug or is it a feature?
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:17 AM, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
>> Kirk,
>>
>> 32 vs 64 bit.
>>
>> The redesigned window in 64 bit doesn't have this functionality.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>>
>> [image: --]
>> Wayne Stewart
>> [image: http://]about.me/waynestewart 
>>
>>
>> On 16 August 2017 at 20:19, bernard--- via 4D_Tech
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I did not know that snippet.
>>> It works for me with V16R3 on my MacBook Pro on macOS Sierra.
>>>
 Le 11 août 2017 à 00:34, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
 <4d_tech@lists.4d.com
>>>
>>> a écrit :

 In prior versions when working with a form and the Property List is
 displayed I could show/hide all panes on the list by holding the
>> Control
 (not the Command) key and clicking on one of the pane triangles.
 This doesn't work for me in v16.

 I've tried on two different Macs, one running Sierra and the other
 Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think of.

 I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may
 have
>>> either
 set or unset to cause this? Really annoying.

 Thanks

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Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech

lost functionality - **SHOULD** be a bug...
of course that is when it is not a feature  :)

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 05:41:59 -0700, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech wrote:
> A HA!
> Now, is it bug or is it a feature?
> 
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:17 AM, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
>> Kirk,
>> 
>> 32 vs 64 bit.
>> 
>> The redesigned window in 64 bit doesn't have this functionality.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
>> 
>> [image: --]
>> Wayne Stewart
>> [image: http://]about.me/waynestewart
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16 August 2017 at 20:19, bernard--- via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did not know that snippet.
>>> It works for me with V16R3 on my MacBook Pro on macOS Sierra.
>>> 
 Le 11 août 2017 à 00:34, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com
>>> 
>>> a écrit :
 
 In prior versions when working with a form and the Property List is
 displayed I could show/hide all panes on the list by holding the
>> Control
 (not the Command) key and clicking on one of the pane triangles. This
 doesn't work for me in v16.
 
 I've tried on two different Macs, one running Sierra and the other
 Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think of.
 
 I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may have
>>> either
 set or unset to cause this? Really annoying.
 
 Thanks
 
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 San Francisco, CA
 ===
 
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Re: selection based list box

2017-08-16 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech

you can also clear, and recreate the selection set.
Given : Listbox selection set name = "My_Listbox_Set"

Clear set("My_Listbox_Set")
Create set([table];"My_Listbox_Set")
or 
listbox get table source(My_Listbox;$Tablenum)
Create set(table($Tablenum)->;"My_Listbox_Set")


On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:53:35 -0400, Charles Miller via 4D_Tech wrote:
> Hi All,
> Version 15.4hf2
> 
> I have a selection based list box with following code on double click event
> 
> *If *(*Not*(InDoubleClick_B))
> 
> InDoubleClick_B:=*True*
> 
> *C_BOOLEAN*(INV_InventInspLocked)
> 
> *FORM SET INPUT*([InventoryPhotos];"Input")
> 
> *C_LONGINT*($LBCol_L;$LBRow_L)
> 
> *LISTBOX GET CELL POSITION*(*;"InventoyPhotos_LB";$LBCol_L;$LBRow_L)
> 
> *If *($LBRow_L>0)
> 
> 
> 
> *GOTO SELECTED RECORD*([InventoryPhotos];$LBRow_L)
> 
> *MODIFY RECORD*([InventoryPhotos])
> 
> 
> *REDRAW*(SelectListBox)
> 
> *INV_CreatePhotosList *
> 
>   //INV_CreatePhotosList
> 
> *Else *
> 
> *If *(*Not*(INV_InventInspLocked))
> 
> *ADD RECORD*([InventoryPhotos];*)
> 
> *INV_CreatePhotosList *
> 
> *End if *
> 
> *End if *
> 
> InDoubleClick_B:=*False*
> 
> *End if *
> If I double click into a row let's say 2 and modify record get out.
> I have a hidden button that runs this code I want to set so no line is
> selected I have tried
> 
>   //LISTBOX SELECT ROW(*;"InventoyPhotos_LB";$LBRow_L;Listbox remove from
> selection)
> 
> 
> What dumb think am I missing
> 
> 
> thank and regards
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> What I want to do is have no record selected as I have a hidden button
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Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech

A HA!
Now, is it bug or is it a feature?

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:17 AM, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Kirk,
>
> 32 vs 64 bit.
>
> The redesigned window in 64 bit doesn't have this functionality.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne
>
>
> [image: --]
> Wayne Stewart
> [image: http://]about.me/waynestewart
> 
>
>
> On 16 August 2017 at 20:19, bernard--- via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I did not know that snippet.
> > It works for me with V16R3 on my MacBook Pro on macOS Sierra.
> >
> > > Le 11 août 2017 à 00:34, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com
> >
> > a écrit :
> > >
> > > In prior versions when working with a form and the Property List is
> > > displayed I could show/hide all panes on the list by holding the
> Control
> > > (not the Command) key and clicking on one of the pane triangles. This
> > > doesn't work for me in v16.
> > >
> > > I've tried on two different Macs, one running Sierra and the other
> > > Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think of.
> > >
> > > I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may have
> > either
> > > set or unset to cause this? Really annoying.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kirk Brooks
> > > San Francisco, CA
> > > ===
> > >
> > > *The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
> > > nothing.*
> > >
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Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech

Kirk,

32 vs 64 bit.

The redesigned window in 64 bit doesn't have this functionality.




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On 16 August 2017 at 20:19, bernard--- via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> I did not know that snippet.
> It works for me with V16R3 on my MacBook Pro on macOS Sierra.
>
> > Le 11 août 2017 à 00:34, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> a écrit :
> >
> > In prior versions when working with a form and the Property List is
> > displayed I could show/hide all panes on the list by holding the Control
> > (not the Command) key and clicking on one of the pane triangles. This
> > doesn't work for me in v16.
> >
> > I've tried on two different Macs, one running Sierra and the other
> > Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think of.
> >
> > I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may have
> either
> > set or unset to cause this? Really annoying.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread bernard--- via 4D_Tech

I did not know that snippet.
It works for me with V16R3 on my MacBook Pro on macOS Sierra.

> Le 11 août 2017 à 00:34, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a 
> écrit :
> 
> In prior versions when working with a form and the Property List is
> displayed I could show/hide all panes on the list by holding the Control
> (not the Command) key and clicking on one of the pane triangles. This
> doesn't work for me in v16.
> 
> I've tried on two different Macs, one running Sierra and the other
> Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think of.
> 
> I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may have either
> set or unset to cause this? Really annoying.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -- 
> Kirk Brooks
> San Francisco, CA
> ===
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> nothing.*
> 
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Re: How to show / hide all on Property List in v16?

2017-08-16 Thread Ingo Wolf via 4D_Tech

I use 4D 16.1 on MacOS 10.11.6 and collectively open/close all panes of the the 
property list of the form editor works when I press  while clicking on 
the triangle.

HTH
Ingo Wolf


>Um - does this mean no one else is seeing this behavior?
>
>Any thoughts about why it is happening on my machines?
>
>On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Kirk Brooks  wrote:
>
>> In prior versions when working with a form and the Property List is
>> displayed I could show/hide all panes on the list by holding the Control
>> (not the Command) key and clicking on one of the pane triangles. This
>> doesn't work for me in v16.
>>
>> I've tried on two different Macs, one running Sierra and the other
>> Yosemite. And I've tried every combination of modifiers I can think of.
>>
>> I believe I asked about this before. Is there some option I may have
>> either set or unset to cause this? Really annoying.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Kirk Brooks
>> San Francisco, CA


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