Re: Why won't Help Tip editor accept Carriage Return?

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
for the record, problem does not exist for v14 or later. this is basically a compatibility issue between macOS 10.8/9 and 13.6 (evidently a regression from 13.5, really sorry about that...), which was released in the first half of 2015. > 2018/06/12 13:22、Dan Ivy via 4D_Tech

Re: Why won't Help Tip editor accept Carriage Return?

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
I wouldn't beat myself over that. UI threads are never preemptive. (and who needs helps tips outside the UI?) 2016/11/08 6:22、Keith Goebel mailto:keit...@clear.net.nz>> のメール: Downside: Perhaps not such a good solution now, with Preemptive Processing not working when there are IP vars

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Justin Carr via 4D_Tech
Building on Cannon's code, rather than calling codesign directly with the --deep flag we use the shell script that is distributed in the 4D app bundle, which takes care of the signing of all of the subcomponents for you. You still need to remove the extended attributes first (with xattr -cr) as

Re: Date entry

2018-06-11 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech
Well, looks like the form was corrupt. I rebuilt it using one that was similar, and it now works. > On Jun 10, 2018, at 7:46 AM, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Bob: > > Nasty date formats. About 15 years ago we created our own tool for the date > entry, and

Re: v16 Time picker - bound variable changed

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
LISTBOX SET PROPERTY was created in 16R2, it's normal that it won't compile on 16.3 (if that is what you mean) http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16R6/4D/16-R6/LISTBOX-SET-PROPERTY.301-3547819.en.html 2018/06/12 6:09、Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: I

Re: Scroll position of display-type subform

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
haven't tried, but I wonder if CONVERT COORDINATES would be smart enough to take into account the scrolled amount of a detail subform. http://doc.4d.com/4Dv16/4D/16.3/CONVERT-COORDINATES.301-3651760.en.html > 2018/06/12 7:37、Richard Wright via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: > I need to

Re: select from _USER_COLUMNS

2018-06-11 Thread Jeremy French via 4D_Tech
OOPS - CORRECTION (“tab” should be “tag”) Hi Chuck, I believe you are encountering the SQL data type codes. In the SQL implementation, there is "DATA_TYPE" and "OLD_DATA_TYPE". For a chart, see tech note "System table column OLD_DATA_TYPE" at: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76350

Re: select from _USER_COLUMNS

2018-06-11 Thread Jeremy French via 4D_Tech
Hi Chuck, I believe you are encountering the SQL data type codes. In the SQL implementation, there is "DATA_TYPE" and "OLD_DATA_TYPE". For a chart, see tech note "System table column OLD_DATA_TYPE" at: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76350 The SQL table "_USER_COLUMNS" reports both the SQL data type

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Hi Wayne, The point of that comment was that nothing should change during the build process after signing and before distributing to the user. Once macOS has checked the code signing before running on the user’s machine, it doesn’t seem to care if it changes again. Of course, it is only a

Scroll position of display-type subform

2018-06-11 Thread Richard Wright via 4D_Tech
Does anyone know how to get the scroll position of a display-type subform? OBJECT GET SCROLL POSITION apparently works only for list-type subforms. I need to get the position of an object on a display-type subform in global coordinates and the subform may be scrolled.

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Jim Crate via 4D_Tech
I’ve been curious about that too, with users/groups/lists being stored in the structure. Last time I tried to sign a standalone 4D app it didn’t work well, so I’ve just been making signed installers using the Packages app. Jim Crate > On Jun 11, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech
> Nothing inside the application package should be changed after this point. That's pretty much going to stop 4D then, it writes to the structure all the time even in a built application Regards, Wayne Wayne Stewart about.me/waynestewart On 12 June 2018 at 03:45, Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Jeff Grann via 4D_Tech
This is part of what I need but it is hopelessly out of date. -- Jeff Grann SuccessWare, Inc. > On Jun 11, 2018, at 1:51 PM, Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Would this still be relevant: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76697 ? > > Keith - CDI > >> On Jun 11,

Re: v16 Time picker - bound variable changed

2018-06-11 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
I submitted a bug on Sunday in regard to 16.3 Hotfix 4 where the command Listbox Set Property and all the lk_ constants are not dereferenced (thus cannot compile). In the Method editor one ends up with just a numerical reference. Jody > On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Keisuke Miyako via

Re: v13+ Progress component, and other components

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
you are working on a component that "wraps" around another component? just as a reminder, the progress component is open-source since v16, partners have ways to customise and distribute them. > 2018/06/11 23:21、Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: > In component (wrappers for

Re: v13+ Progress component, and other components

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
remember, "progress" is itself a component, so your callback method is always called from outside (EXECUTE METHOD) . the method must be shared. > 2018/06/11 23:21、Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: > > I do not understand why I am getting this error, as the callback method >

Re: v16 Time picker - bound variable changed

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
it is a bug that was fixed in 16.3 Hotfix 1 (latest is Hotfix 4) ACI0097700 2018/06/12 0:40、David Samson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: Should I be defaulting the time on the on-load of the holding form now? Or is it something else?

select from _USER_COLUMNS

2018-06-11 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
Given the following code select COLUMN_NAME, DATA_TYPE, DATA_LENGTH, COLUMN_ID from _USER_COLUMNS where TABLE_ID = :$TableNumber_L into :$Cname_atxt, :$DataType_aL, :$DataLength_aL, :$ColumnID_aL; What values can be returned in $DataType_aL It seems that they do not equal 4D data types (I

RE: Bug reports?

2018-06-11 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech
> Where do we file bug reports now? bugs.4d.fr no longer > exists, > and TAOW doesn’t allow me to create any bug reports, I’m not a partner. Partners can use TAOW: https://taow.4d.com Non-partners can use the Forums: http://forums.4d.com/Bugs/EN/ -Tim

Re: Why won't Help Tip editor accept Carriage Return?

2018-06-11 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
Alan: The messages in the thread "Text Editing Bug Introduced with v13.6" (from 10/2015) might shed some light on things. -- Douglas von Roeder 949-336-2902 On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 12:50 PM Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Hello Jim & everyone, > > I still have this

Re: Why won't Help Tip editor accept Carriage Return?

2018-06-11 Thread Alan Tilson via 4D_Tech
Hello Jim & everyone, I still have this issue with 4D v13.6 in sometimes in Help Tips and sometimes in text fields. Has it been resolved somehow? Thanks! Alan On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 7:13 PM Jim Labos - infobase wrote: > Sorry for double post. I meant to post to 4D Tech) > > The first edit

Re: Bug reports?

2018-06-11 Thread Alan Chan via 4D_Tech
Try http://forums.4d.com/Bugs/EN/ Alan Chan 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> writes: >Hi, > >Where do we file bug reports now? bugs.4d.fr no longer >exists, and TAOW doesn’t allow me to create any bug reports, I’m not a partner. > >All the best, > > - Aparajita >

Bug reports?

2018-06-11 Thread Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech
Hi, Where do we file bug reports now? bugs.4d.fr no longer exists, and TAOW doesn’t allow me to create any bug reports, I’m not a partner. All the best, - Aparajita ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG)

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread George Huhn via 4D_Tech
This is how I sign app bundles manually using 2 Terminal commands: Step 1: First I need to get rid of all the extended attributes in the app bundle: 1. Type: xattr -cr Note: If you drag and drop the app to the terminal, the path will automatically be typed in terminal.

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech
Would this still be relevant: http://kb.4d.com/assetid=76697 ? Keith - CDI > On Jun 11, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> Can someone please direct me to documentation on how to code sign apps for >> MacOS with 4D. I need the entire process in a

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Hi Jeff, I can’t give you a step by step guide, especially including getting the signing certificate. But here is a code snippet which I use for signing my apps which works. The takeaways will be in the comments as well as the two commands that are run using LEP. Hopefully that is enough to

Re: Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech
On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:04 PM, Jeff Grann via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Can someone please direct me to documentation on how to code sign apps for > MacOS with 4D. I need the entire process in a step-by-step guide from > explaining how to obtain the code signing certificate from

Re: v13 - [Warning] Caomiler misses syntax problem

2018-06-11 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
The v17 compiler does not miss stuff like this. We apparently once had a developer who liked to declare variables like this: C_LONGINT(;\ Var1; \ Var2; \ Var3; \ ) Two compiler errors in one, once you get to v17! > C_Boolean(;$My_Local_Var_Name)

Re: v13 - [Warning] **Compiler** misses syntax problem

2018-06-11 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
sorry fixed title :) On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:29:27 -0400, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote: > given: > C_Boolean(;$My_Local_Var_Name) > > Compiler fails to find the syntax error in the above. During execution > (nterp) this results in My_Local_Var_Name being undefined. > > hint in case you do

Re: WR Count equivalent in 4D Write Pro

2018-06-11 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Of course that works. Thanks. I was getting tired and cranky last night. > On Jun 10, 2018, at 10:36 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > I suppose you could use EDIT FORMULA, for a start... > >> 2018/06/11 16:06、JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>

Re: Flexible SVG ID Strategy

2018-06-11 Thread John J Foster via 4D_Tech
Hi Tom, I have looked at a few but thought it might be work. But now I am not so sure. It is something I will building on for years so… Which JS SVG library do you recommend? I assume I’ll be able to: Create template objects that can be reused and dynamically updated based upon the record

Build with code signing

2018-06-11 Thread Jeff Grann via 4D_Tech
Can someone please direct me to documentation on how to code sign apps for MacOS with 4D. I need the entire process in a step-by-step guide from explaining how to obtain the code signing certificate from Apple through adding it to the 4D XML build files and building. -- Jeff Grann

Re: v13+ Progress component, and other components

2018-06-11 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
What happens if you check this method as shared. Remember you are running in your own process. Not sure if this does anything. Regards Chuck Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > closing the progress object >

RE: Moving Methods/Forms between structures seems disabled

2018-06-11 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech
Let me ask this another way hopefully someone knows: If I "wanted" to not allow "moving" objects into a structure using the "moving" features of 4D, what setting would I check/uncheck?  Thanks to all who entertain this option! Randy Engle, Director XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!

Re: v13+ Progress component, and other components

2018-06-11 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
maybe I need to try explaining the situation again... In component (wrappers for progress methods including): - New progress object wrapper (New_Progress) - call back method for managing a user closing the progress object (user_Closed_Progress). - The call back method is referenced in the

Re: Save Record($vptr_Table->)

2018-06-11 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech
Arnaud de Montard: Thanks, I will keep these in mind. These kinds of things are ‘hard’ to deal with until one comes upon the solution. The thing is to remember doing it, then it is not so bad. Jody > On Jun 11, 2018, at 2:56 AM, Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >

RE: Losing memory on 4D web application

2018-06-11 Thread Olson, Brad via 4D_Tech
Hi Dani, I am not using the Object Tools plug-in. The only plug-in I am using is 4D InternetCommands Thank you, Brad -Original Message- From: Dani Beaubien [mailto:dbeaub...@openroaddevelopment.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:35 PM To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>

Re: Save Record($vptr_Table->)

2018-06-11 Thread Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech
> Le 10 juin 2018 à 23:18, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > Sujit: > > I do not think it is a table number issue in our code. We built the local > pointer early into the new process by code similar to > $vptr_Table:=->[StandardOrder] > > In one last try, before

Re: WR Count equivalent in 4D Write Pro

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
I suppose you could use EDIT FORMULA, for a start... > 2018/06/11 16:06、JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール: > > BTW, another thing I cannot find is any way to provide a means for end users > to insert 4D expressions as they can in 4D Write. I could write a dialog for > this,

Re: WR Count equivalent in 4D Write Pro

2018-06-11 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
> On Jun 10, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > I must say it would be difficult to manipulate an existing anchored image > without Get elements or Get element by id (v17). You assumed correctly in that these are anchored pictures. I have

Re: WR Count equivalent in 4D Write Pro

2018-06-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
WP SET A. expects different kind of "range", depending on the attribute type. for example, // a regular range to specify where to insert the image $range:=WP Create range($wp_l;wk end text;wk end text) // insert the image in range WP INSERT PICTURE($range;$data;wk append) // the URL is a