Opening a verify log

[Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech]

4D v16.3, Mac OS 10.11.6.

I was trying to create a form in V16 that exists in V15. Went to add a plug-in 
area and it crashed. So, I opened again, and copied the plug-in area from a 
different existing form.

Then I ran a structure verify. There are anomalies. This is generally bad news. 
So, I pressed the open log file button, and Safari opened and showed the file 
name in the header, but a totally blank page. Log file is 3mb. 

So, after trying Chrome, I opened the log file with BBEdit. It is a 62,447 line 
file. Looking for warnings, I see 863 lines complaining about depreciated 
picture formats (PICT). Those I can deal with over time. It turns out that the 
nice list heading has an old pict as the shaded grey background.

But, what can I use to see the log files without using BBEdit? Even when 
verifying the data file, its log file opens blank in a browser as well.
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Re: v13 - UUID COLLISION!!! [observation]

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

according to Wikipedea:
the number of random version 4 UUIDs which need to be generated in 
order to have a 50% probability of at least one collision is 2.71 
quintillion,

 

This number is equivalent to generating 1 billion UUIDs per second for 
about 85 years, and a file containing this many UUIDs, at 16 bytes per 
UUID, would be about 45 exabytes, many times larger than the largest 
databases currently in existence, which are on the order of hundreds of 
petabytes.[17][18]

so... why couldn't I have gotten this duplication on a power ball ($720 
million) or mega millions ($1.7 Billion) ticket :p

Chip
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:53:29 -0400, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
> UUID value ="E092AB501E1D41F5A5D15B56E835D2EE"
> this value appears to be duplicated in my database!
> 
> ideas? thoughts?
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RE: v13 - UUID COLLISION!!!

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

no -

the new record is a related record added via a double click on a 
listbox.
The code being used has been in operation for years.
it works/worked else where.

I am working though trying to figure out what has happened.
4D is throwing an error about a duplicated (unique) value.

after checking the structure (to be sure there was not a field 
accidentally set to unique that shouldd not have been). I confirmed 
there are 2 unique fields in the table.
- Record_ID the table's relational key (longint, indexed, unique, 
mandatory)
- Journal_Key UUID, auto generated, unique, primary key, text

I verified the record_ID field is NOT duplicated.
I copied the UUID from the new record in the debugger, 
searched the table's journal_key for the UUID just copied from the 
debugger
-- it exists! --
with a different Record ID and different record data.

In addition, the new record is not saved (4D error) and even if it had 
been saved it would NOT be visible to another process, as the new 
record is being created inside a transaction (which is currently open).

Chip


On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 13:57:16 -0500, Stephen J. Orth wrote:
> Chip,
> 
> Did you duplicate a record?
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Chip 
> Scheide via 4D_Tech
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> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Cc: Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org>
> Subject: v13 - UUID COLLISION!!!
> 
> UUID value ="E092AB501E1D41F5A5D15B56E835D2EE"
> this value appears to be duplicated in my database!
> 
> ideas? thoughts?
> Chip
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RE: v13 - UUID COLLISION!!!

[Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech]

Chip,

Did you duplicate a record?


Steve

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From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Chip Scheide 
via 4D_Tech
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:53 PM
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Cc: Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org>
Subject: v13 - UUID COLLISION!!!

UUID value ="E092AB501E1D41F5A5D15B56E835D2EE"
this value appears to be duplicated in my database!

ideas? thoughts?
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RE: v13 - UUID COLLISION!!!

[Dennis, Neil via 4D_Tech]

>UUID value ="E092AB501E1D41F5A5D15B56E835D2EE"
>this value appears to be duplicated in my database!

Is the field set to auto generate?
Was a record exported and imported?


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v13 - UUID COLLISION!!!

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

UUID value ="E092AB501E1D41F5A5D15B56E835D2EE"
this value appears to be duplicated in my database!

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Re: SQL Convert problem

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Try cast.

Chuck

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> workorders  where workorder > 278000"
> this used to work in v 6.8 but not in v16, it crashes. The problem is with
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SQL Convert problem

[vagelis fallias via 4D_Tech]

Hello,
I have the following statement from an external application to 4D via ODBC
   var_SelectQuery = "select workorder, convert(prodstartdate,SQL_VARCHAR), 
prodstarttime, planstarttime from workorders  where workorder > 278000"
this used to work in v 6.8 but not in v16, it crashes. The problem is with the 
convert, any ideas as to what the problem might be, what changed?

Thanks
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Re: Setting up an entity / collection listbox in code

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Jeremy,
Jeremy French outlines the steps you need to follow. I would add a couple
of ideas expanding on his post if you have multiple listboxes in a form.

The first is simply adopt a custom of putting all the listboxes in a single
object of the parent form. So I might have:

Form.LB.A...

Which means "LB" is an object I use for all the listboxes. "A" is the
object for the first listbox and so on.

Subforms are really helpful in this situation too. You can design a subform
whose only purpose is to display a listbox. This subform can be duplicated
multiple times on the parent form and the subform object itself can be a
collection or object. Now the cool part is the contents of the subform Form
object ARE the Form object of the subform. And these can be linked to the
parent form's Form.

This is particularly convenient for configuring LBs for tools or controls
of various types but they can also be full blown listboxes as well.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:22 AM Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> It’s great to be able to make generic listboxes and set them up entirely
> in code. It’s easy for array-based and selection-based listboxes, but can
> it be done for entity/collection boxes?
>
> In other words, are there LISTBOX SET xx calls to identify the names of
> the variables unique to entity/collection boxes: the collection/entity
> source; the current item; the current item position; and the selected
> items?
>
> I can’t find them, but it’s perfectly possible that, as so often, I’ve
> missed something.
>
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Re: Setting up an entity / collection listbox in code

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> It’s great to be able to make generic listboxes and set them up entirely in 
> code. It’s easy for array-based and selection-based listboxes, but can it be 
> done for entity/collection boxes?

Yes. It's even more easy using collections.

> In other words, are there LISTBOX SET xx calls to identify the names of the 
> variables unique to entity/collection boxes: the collection/entity source; 
> the current item; the current item position; and the selected items? 

No new listbox commands are needed, since we have the "Form" command.
 
I'm using the naming convention:

Form.LBA
Form.itemA
Form.indexA
Form.selectedA

where "A" uniquely identies the listbox collection. If more than one listbox is 
present on the form, the "A" becomes "B", "C" and so on.

So the listbox properties would show these references:

https://i.postimg.cc/SxB6FPPL/collection-listbox.png 


Use the "LISTBOX INSERT COLUMN FORMULA” command to create columns. Remember to 
prefix attribute names with “This."




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> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
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> It’s great to be able to make generic listboxes and set them up entirely in 
> code. It’s easy for array-based and selection-based listboxes, but can it be 
> done for entity/collection boxes?
> 
> In other words, are there LISTBOX SET xx calls to identify the names of the 
> variables unique to entity/collection boxes: the collection/entity source; 
> the current item; the current item position; and the selected items? 
> 
> I can’t find them, but it’s perfectly possible that, as so often, I’ve missed 
> something.
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Re: SOAP over HTTPS

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

included in 4D 2004 is an older (0.9.8 or thereabouts) version of OpenSSL,
so it is not capable of elevating to TLS 1.2 which is the default minimum for 
v17.

https://blog.4d.com/more-security-for-your-4d-server/

of course you could lower the security level but that's probably the wrong way 
to look at it.

things have changed a lot since 2004; I recently had to bring back a Snow 
Leopard machine from hibernation, turns out almost all https sites are 
inaccessible using Safari or the command line curl.

2018/10/29 18:40、Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
So I can only assume that for whatever reason HTTPS support never existed in 
that version.



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Re: v16R6 Crashing on Compile

[Keith White via 4D_Tech]

>What exactly constitutes a token in a method?  Is it every "word" in the code?


Tokens - I don't have a definitive list but I think 4D Commands, 4D Functions, 
Constants, Table names, Field Names.


Variable names are not tokenised as far as I know, which is why we got the 
problem after replacing some IP vars with constants.  Similarly it sounds like 
you got the problem after replacing some IP vars with "Storage".  Storage will 
be a token.


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Setting up an entity / collection listbox in code

[Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech]

It’s great to be able to make generic listboxes and set them up entirely in 
code. It’s easy for array-based and selection-based listboxes, but can it be 
done for entity/collection boxes?

In other words, are there LISTBOX SET xx calls to identify the names of the 
variables unique to entity/collection boxes: the collection/entity source; the 
current item; the current item position; and the selected items? 

I can’t find them, but it’s perfectly possible that, as so often, I’ve missed 
something.

Jeremy
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[ANN] hmCal 8.1 available for 4D v16 and v17

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With version 8.1 of hmCal we continually integrate new features and improve 
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This version of hmCal is certified for 4D v16 and 4D v17!

hmCal 8 contains new functions and improvements:

* The command hmCal_Delete Column can now delete all columns
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* New command hmCal_SET LINEDASH to define segmented lines
* New command hmCal_SET LINE WIDTH to define the widths of lines
* New area properties to set the scroll increments
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and with v7:

* New command hmCal_SET TIMEOUT LIST to set breaks in the time line
* New events: hmCal_OnTooltip, hmCal_OnScroll and hmCal_SortUser
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channel for colors
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appoinments together in a view
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* 64 Bit Version for Mac (4D and 4D Server)
* Complete rewritten drawing engine under Windows: Moving from GDI+ to Direct2D 
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Re: SOAP over HTTPS

[Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech]

Keisuke and Lutz,

Thank you again for your comments.  I have now worked out what is not working...

I was dumb enough to think that all SOAP clients would be equal.  In fact when 
I tried from SOAPUI the HTTTPS call worked fine.  When I tried from 4D v17 the 
HTTPS call also worked fine.

My original call that was failing was being made from 4D 2004 system which just 
fails.  So I can only assume that for whatever reason HTTPS support never 
existed in that version.

This is really not a problem as this system is weeks away from it's v17 release.

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RE: SOAP over HTTPS

[Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech]

Sorry, I was bit too fast with my answer. Especially about the configuration of 
the web service on the side of 4D. This was my from remembering of using a 4D 
web service for testing purposes in the past. At this time we built this test 
service as a mockup of another external web service, that should be used in 
production later. But as I said it was some time ago, so my assumption to 
configure a hardcoded endpoint in 4D was wrong.

I did a small test now, there wasn't any problem accessing the 4d web service 
via https. The mentioned endpoint is offered correctly by 4D. E.g. if you 
access an URL https://my.superwebservice/4dwsdl then this endpoint can be found 
within the wsdl. Accessing the wsdl using the 4d web services assistant works 
without any problem.
This was tested with 4D v16 and V17.

> -Original Message-
> Lutz said:
> "is not only necessary to access the endpoint with https:// you have to 
> offer the service
> as a https:// service, e.g. you have to adjust the settings in 4D to modify 
> the wsdl in
> the proper way."

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Re: SOAP over HTTPS

[Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech]

Keisuke and Lutz,

Thank you for your comments.

Lutz said:
"is not only necessary to access the endpoint with https:// you have to offer 
the service as a https:// service, e.g. you have to adjust the settings in 4D 
to modify the wsdl in the proper way."

This sounds like the key, so I will look into that.  Any clues on what this 
involves as the WSDL is automatically generated by 4D and I do not see general 
controls for SOAP and https settings like you have for the web server.

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