Re: Configure 4D server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016

2020-04-19 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
I looked at the blogs posted and they seem to be in project mode. If I convert to normal, can they be used in v17.4 or must they be in an r release Regards Chuck On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 8:02 PM Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > 4D Server does not have to run on a

Re: Configure 4D server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016

2020-04-17 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
4D Server does not have to run on a server OS. many users find the option both practical and affordable. the server side admin window makes perfect sense for those kinds of distribution. for headless deployment, https://blog.4d.com/headless-4d-applications/ you can either: 1. take advantage

Configure 4D server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016

2020-04-17 Thread Tonu Mikk via 4D_Tech
Hello, We are having trouble being able to manage a 4D server (v18.2) on Windows Server 2016 when the 4D server Windows service is set up to run under a Local System account. The interactive service window never shows up. I understand that Microsoft has turned off the Interactive Service window

Re: Configure 4D server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016

2020-04-13 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
I think it will only work for designer or administrator accounts Not sure if you are running with no passwords Regards Chuck Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Informed Solutions, Inc. Fax: (617)

Re: Configure 4D server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016

2020-04-10 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
:10, Tim Fitzgerald via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Hello, > > We are having trouble being able to manage a 4D server (v18.2) on Windows > Server 2016 when the 4D server Windows service is set up to run under a > Local System account. The interactive se

RE: Configure 4D server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016

2020-04-10 Thread Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech
server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016 Hello, We are having trouble being able to manage a 4D server (v18.2) on Windows Server 2016 when the 4D server Windows service is set up to run under a Local System account. The interactive service window never shows up. I understand that Microso

Configure 4D server as Windows Service on Windows Server 2016

2020-04-10 Thread Tim Fitzgerald via 4D_Tech
Hello, We are having trouble being able to manage a 4D server (v18.2) on Windows Server 2016 when the 4D server Windows service is set up to run under a Local System account. The interactive service window never shows up. I understand that Microsoft has turned off the Interactive Service window

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-11 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
h to using an account. Now I have to periodically go change the saved password because my client has that option turned in Windows. Luckily I am using my own account login for the 4D Server Service, so when I get prompted to make the password change, I just have to remember to go to the 4D Serve

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-11 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
ve post. It really helps. I will be >> switching my client's 4D Server to a service later this evening for the >> first time. After reading your post I feel far more confident going forward. >> >> The client is running v16R6 on Windows Server 2008 R2. You pointed me in the >

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
t; ensures that the server has the data file path, that it can respond to > requests, that it can serve the new code, and that the client can update > and connect. > > Next step is to quit 4D Server, start the service running, and log into it > with the built client app. > >

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech
ech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Well, last night I tried to start the service on the client’s production > machine and I could not get it to work. > > After registering the service from 4D server, I tried starting the service > from the Service Manager and it indicated that it

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
u can, since this is a new switch from macOS to Windows, > and if you have ready access to the server machine, start off by NOT running > 4D Server as a Windows Service. Run it as a desktop application. You can do > the Services setup and try it out, but Stop the service mark the service

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Well, last night I tried to start the service on the client’s production machine and I could not get it to work. After registering the service from 4D server, I tried starting the service from the Service Manager and it indicated that it had started up but I was unable to establish

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 10, 2019, at 8:09 AM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > Tim, thank you for that most informative post. It really helps. I will be > switching my client's 4D Server to a service later this evening for the first > time. After reading your post I feel far more confident going forward. >

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
> On May 9, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Current 4D recommendations is to not use interact with desktop when running > 4D Server as a service and to handle everything yourself. Always install ON > ERR CALL method on ev

RE: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-10 Thread Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech
We use Windows Services all the time with success. But we have to launch the server application from time to time as a desktop application as John said, but it is pretty rare. Nearly all errors we try to catch and write the messages to a log file. But there are situations where this isn't

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-09 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Tim, thank you for that most informative post. It really helps. I will be switching my client's 4D Server to a service later this evening for the first time. After reading your post I feel far more confident going forward. > On May 9, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-09 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
On May 9, 2019, at 14:25, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > On May 9, 2019, at 2:00 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > >> I am new to this and am wondering how does one manage a 4D Server running as >> a service. If, for example, the server thro

Re: Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-09 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On May 9, 2019, at 2:00 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote: > I am new to this and am wondering how does one manage a 4D Server running as > a service. If, for example, the server throws an error there is no way to see > the error. I guess what I am asking is to confirm that there is no w

Managing 4D Server as a service

2019-05-09 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
I am new to this and am wondering how does one manage a 4D Server running as a service. If, for example, the server throws an error there is no way to see the error. I guess what I am asking is to confirm that there is no way to see the server gui while it is running as a service. Also, I am

Re: 4D Server as a Service

2018-07-20 Thread James Wright via 4D_Tech
ah, seems like it could've affected windows 10. https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/windows-10-update-revisions-july-16-2018/ On 20 July 2018 at 17:43, James Wright wrote: > There was a recent windows updated that caused problems with mssql servers > and web servers. Although I'm not sure it's

Re: 4D Server as a Service

2018-07-20 Thread James Wright via 4D_Tech
There was a recent windows updated that caused problems with mssql servers and web servers. Although I'm not sure it's applicable to windows server 2012. Might be worth reading these: https://borncity.com/win/2018/07/17/iis-web-server-strikes-after-update-kb4338818/

Re: 4D Server as a Service

2018-07-20 Thread David Conley via 4D_Tech
Robert, We have experienced this on several windows computers as well. In our case they were windows 10 machines so it isn’t isolated to the server OS. Nothing shows up in the event log that would pinpoint the problem. We could manually start the database as a service and it starts just

RE: 4D Server as a Service

2018-07-20 Thread Epperlein, Lutz (agendo) via 4D_Tech
I can only guess ... We experienced something similar in the past, but always it reveals to be a problem caused by us. An example: Usually our server apps are updated automatically during the night, so the service hat to be restarted by the update script. In nearly all cases it works very well,

4D Server as a Service

2018-07-20 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
This morning, I received a call about a Windows server 2012 where 4D Server v15.6 was not running. Since it runs as a service it seems to normally survive reboots of the server when their IT guys are applying security patches to Windows Server and whatnot. I’ve managed the symptom by restarting