Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Arnaud de Montard]

> Le 13 oct. 2016 à 18:11, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> a écrit :
> 
> [...]
> Then for the most part you can define your own - even (again mostly) 
> for key strokes that 4D does not give you access to.

I don't understand why the shortcut list cannot be sorted. Stings my eyes. 

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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Chip Scheide]

really the solution for your own work environment is a macro key utility
Like the old Quikeys

Then for the most part you can define your own - even (again mostly) 
for key strokes that 4D does not give you access to.

I say mostly, as I have NOT figured a way to get  to step into a 
method and have to use F8



On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 17:36:30 +0200, Arnaud de Montard wrote:
> 
>> Le 13 oct. 2016 à 16:21, Jim Medlen 
>>  a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> As mentioned ctrl-k (command-k) opens a method also ctrl-l (command+l)
>> opens a form.
> 
> ctrl+l has changed, it opens "go to line…" dialog (since v13, 
> AFAICR). It still works when explorer is the front window. 
> ctrl+k opens a form _if the quotes around are selected - type ctrl+b 
> to expand selection. 
> BTW ctrl+b is my favorite shortcut in method editor. 
> 
> 
>> Is there a key combination that will find / open / goto an object on a
>> form ?
> 
> I'm not aware of that. 
> (except: know the object name, search in development, double clic in 
> the result. Yes, I'm stupid)
> 
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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Arnaud de Montard]

> Le 13 oct. 2016 à 16:21, Jim Medlen  a écrit :
> 
> 
> As mentioned ctrl-k (command-k) opens a method also ctrl-l (command+l)
> opens a form.

ctrl+l has changed, it opens "go to line…" dialog (since v13, AFAICR). It still 
works when explorer is the front window. 
ctrl+k opens a form _if the quotes around are selected - type ctrl+b to expand 
selection. 
BTW ctrl+b is my favorite shortcut in method editor. 


> Is there a key combination that will find / open / goto an object on a
> form ?

I'm not aware of that. 
(except: know the object name, search in development, double clic in the 
result. Yes, I'm stupid)

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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Jim Medlen]

As mentioned ctrl-k (command-k) opens a method also ctrl-l (command+l)
opens a form.


Is there a key combination that will find / open / goto an object on a
form ?



On 10/12/16, 1:24 PM, "4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of
4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of
4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com> wrote:

>There *is* a very easy way to open the Explorer using Ctrl-k - place the
>insertion point on an empty row of text in the method editor, press
>Ctrl-k,
>and 4D opens the Explorer.


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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Douglas von Roeder]

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 9:48 AM, John Baughman 
wrote:

> Great tip! Still Learning something new every day.
>
Agreed - lotsa nuances.



> For command documentation and opening a method, option-click works as
> well. I am assuming alt-click works the same on a PC. I find this easier
> and quicker than Ctrl-K as you only need to hover over the command or
> method and option-click.
>
Yup, Alt-double click is the standard Windows shortcut. No question -
that's handy, as well.

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Re: Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[John Baughman]

> On Oct 12, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Douglas von Roeder  wrote:
> 
> There *is* a very easy way to open the Explorer using Ctrl-k - place the
> insertion point on an empty row of text in the method editor, press Ctrl-k,
> and 4D opens the Explorer.

Great tip! Still Learning something new every day.

For command documentation and opening a method, option-click works as well. I 
am assuming alt-click works the same on a PC. I find this easier and quicker 
than Ctrl-K as you only need to hover over the command or method and 
option-click.

John


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Easy Key Combination to Open the Explorer

[Douglas von Roeder]

This could be old news but I discovered this late yesterday -

In 4D's method editor, Ctrl-k is the keyboard shortcut for "Goto
definition" for the item that's highlighted. If a 4D command is
highlighted, pressing Ctrl-k will open the documentation web page for that
command. If it's a method that's highlighted, 4D will open that method.

In contrast to the simplicity of "Goto definition", the keyboard "shortcut"
for opening the Explorer is Ctrl+Shift+Alt+e which requires some dexterity
compared to a simple Ctrl-k. Further, working on different system
configurations means that some key commands are different - 4D
2004+Parallels+Win7 uses different commands from V13+Parallels+Win7 which
are, in turn, different from a V15 app accessed via Citrix on the Mac to
Citrix on Win 2008 Server

There *is* a very easy way to open the Explorer using Ctrl-k - place the
insertion point on an empty row of text in the method editor, press Ctrl-k,
and 4D opens the Explorer.

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