Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-20 Thread Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech
Thanks for the plug, Tim! > And he is also an experienced C++ programmer And python and JavaScript. In the case of these courses most of the inspiration comes from the JavaScript/Node world, which makes sense since 4D is slowly integrating JavaScript into the 4D language. > Maybe this would

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-20 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Sep 20, 2019, at 2:25 AM, John J Foster wrote: > I would be interested as well. Especially object-oriented programming in 4D > v17 with a messaging system that takes advantage of new 4D concepts. And > good quality reusable examples to speed up the integration into 4D v17R... > > And the

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-19 Thread Nils Kollandsrud via 4D_Tech
Sign me up for both! Nils On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 21:17, Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > creating two video courses: > > - Revolutionize your apps with object-oriented programming in 4D v17 — > today! > - express4d: The better way to write web APIs in 4D > > I’m

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-19 Thread John J Foster via 4D_Tech
ize your apps with object-oriented programming in 4D v17 — today! > - express4d: The better way to write web APIs in 4D > On Sep 18, 2019, at 12:00 PM, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com wrote: > > From: Aparajita Fishman <mailto:aparaj...@aparajita.com>> > Subject: Re: More on

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-19 Thread Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech
- Revolutionize your apps with object-oriented programming in 4D v17 — today! - express4d: The better way to write web APIs in 4D I’m wondering how many people would be interested in one or both of these courses. Pricing: 1 course: $500 2 courses: $900 I would

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-18 Thread Sannyasin Siddhanathaswami via 4D_Tech
Aloha Aparajita, I’d definitely be interested. Object-oriented programming is something I never learned, but is becoming a requirement in 4D. I’ve been using objects, collections and entity selections quite a bit recently in 4D and love them. I know I’m only scratching the surface. v18 knowing

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-18 Thread Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech
> I worked on a 4D system originally developed by Aparajita more than 22 years > ago for an investment bank. It used a plug-in that was probably little known > at the time - ObjectTools. I wrote ObjectTools specifically for that project, so that we could use an object oriented style of

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-16 Thread Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech
at 23:32 To: 4D Tech Mailing List <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Kirk Brooks Subject: Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance' Well gee, what does Aparajita know about object oriented stuff? 樂 Nicely put. On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:23 PM Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Well gee, what does Aparajita know about object oriented stuff? 樂 Nicely put. On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:23 PM Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Well my recommendation is not to use New formula ever. > > Translation: “I’m not sure I can use them properly, therefore

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-16 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
rofl ! That was a very inspiring post. Ok I think thats pushed me over the edge. OO 4D here I come. > On 16 Sep 2019, at 22:23, Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> Well my recommendation is not to use New formula ever. > > Translation: “I’m not sure I can use

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-16 Thread Aparajita Fishman via 4D_Tech
> Well my recommendation is not to use New formula ever. Translation: “I’m not sure I can use them properly, therefore no one should.”  > Even with properly > encapsulated code structured in a way that makes sense, it's still > impossible to get the context, source, or whether or not the

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-16 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
Fascinating stuff Kirk. Thanks for posting. Peter > On 16 Sep 2019, at 17:10, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Not everyone is a fan and there are some good arguments to be made ** 4D Internet

Re: More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-16 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Peter, On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:58 AM Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > The key is the new “This” self-referencing function because it now lets > you create an active object as a class. It does. > I realise OO purists may not regard it as a class, They do not. >

More on 4D Objects and 'Inheritance'

2019-09-16 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
Hi Just expanding on that last thread, (“Why does this not work") there do appear to be some real object orientation aspects to the new 4D commands - at least from the point of view of what’s needed and useful in a high level environment like 4D. The key is the new “This” self-referencing