Re: SDI or MDI
Paul, On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:40 PM Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > If you are a Windows user that has multiple monitors and you like to use > all of your monitors for any window you want, then MDI is a severely > limiting user interface. You are limited to only using 1 monitor for all > the windows of a single application. > If you have the option of using SDI take it. If you are using a version of 4D that doesn't support SDI you can use multiple monitors - it's just crude. A user can stretch the MDI across more than one monitor. It's less awful if the monitors are identical. And it's still the MDI but it's a hack some folks use. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === What can be said, can be said clearly, and what you can’t say, you should shut up about *Wittgenstein and the Computer * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: SDI or MDI
Thanks for replies. Never considered the multiple monitor issue. My customers have always been in the KISS group. Cheers Paul -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: SDI or MDI
On Jan 30, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Paul Dennis wrote: > Seeing an earlier post by Tim. I'm struggling to understand the benefit of > SDI on Windows. I understand on a Mac with the way the menu switches with > the window SDI makes sense. However the windows implementation where the > menu remains with the window does not work for me so I am surprised why > people are adopting this unless it's for cross platform compatibility. > > Considering that browsers with their tabbed interface are by default MDI > adopting SDI seemed like a retrograde step at least on Windows. If you are a Windows user that has multiple monitors and you like to use all of your monitors for any window you want, then MDI is a severely limiting user interface. You are limited to only using 1 monitor for all the windows of a single application. And the MDI window covers everything behind it so you can’t see other windows or the Desktop. Some people like to see the window contents of windows in other applications. SDI is a feature that “power users” like. Power users usually have 2 or more monitors. Many macOS and Windows users don’t want a lot of power and complexity. They like to see just 1 window at a time. Too many windows and they get lost. They like KISS — keep it simple stupid. That’s why macOS and Windows both created the “full screen” schemes, for the KISS user group. I'll give you a perfect example of why my users wanted SDI support for their 4D application. It has a “To Do” system that lists things people need to get done each day. There is a list window that updates every few minutes to show what tasks need to be done at that time. Power users keep the To Do list window open all day long. They like to put it on their secondary monitor next to the window for their email program. Monitor 1 is their main monitor and that’s where most of the 4D application windows — other than the To Do list window — normally live. When emails come in they see the change immediately on Monitor 2. And now with SDI they also see the To Do List window changes. In the past the To Do List window would auto BRING TO FRONT when new To Do Items appeared and some users hated that. It broke their concentration. SDI eliminated the need for that too. Tim * Tim Nevels Innovative Solutions 785-749-3444 timnev...@mac.com * ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
SDI or MDI
Seeing an earlier post by Tim. I'm struggling to understand the benefit of SDI on Windows. I understand on a Mac with the way the menu switches with the window SDI makes sense. However the windows implementation where the menu remains with the window does not work for me so I am surprised why people are adopting this unless it's for cross platform compatibility. Considering that browsers with their tabbed interface are by default MDI adopting SDI seemed like a retrograde step at least on Windows. Any thoughts ? Regards Paul -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
