[resolved] Re: Encrypt & decrypt blobs

2019-04-22 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Keisuke,
Thanks
using UTF-8 text without length resolved the extra 2 nulls being 
appended.

Chip
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 23:26:38 +, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech wrote:
> I wouldn't convert the text to MacRoman, max 32,000 bytes (i.e. v2004 
> format) text
> risking data loss - even if the possibility was minimal with small US 
> ASCII - just to be safe (and fast).
> 
>  TEXT TO BLOB($Text_Ptr->;$Blob;Mac text without length)
>  $Destination->:=BLOB to text($Blob;Mac text without length)
> 
> either specify UTF-8 which has no length limit or data loss,
> or even better, VARIABLE TO BLOB which does no conversion at all.
> 
> but I can not say how the 0x00 terminator was introduced,
> whether by OpenSSL which does the encryption or the BLOB/TEXT 
> conversion done by 4D.
> 
> 
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Re: Encrypt & decrypt blobs

2019-04-20 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Peter,
I found it because the encrypted data is a password.
and
"ABCDEFG" is not equal to "ABCDEFG(null)(null)"

Chip


> Chip,
> 
> How you found that text is 2 bytes longer? If you wrote the text to 
> file, 4D would put BOM before text, which is 2 bytes. Normally, BOM 
> is used by text editors and is not displayed, to check if there is 
> BOM prepended I had to use hex editor and look at the file.
> 
> While most text editors know what to do with BOM, I have run into 
> programs where that caused problems.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Bozek
>  
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:14 AM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> I am putting text into a blob
>>   TEXT TO BLOB($Text_Ptr->;$Blob;Mac text without length)
>> I encrypt the blob
>>   ENCRYPT BLOB($Blob;$Private_Key)
>> 
>> I later extract this text
>>   DECRYPT BLOB($Blob;$Public_Key)
>>   $Destination->:=BLOB to text($Blob;Mac text without length)
>> 
>> The text is extracted - and APPEARS to be the same, however
>> the length of the extracted text is 2 characters longer then the 
>> original text.
>> The extra 2 characters are:
>> Character code = 0
>> And are appended to end of the extracted text.
>> 
>> Anyone have an Idea??
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Chip
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Re: Encrypt & decrypt blobs

2019-04-20 Thread Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech
Chip,

How you found that text is 2 bytes longer? If you wrote the text to file,
4D would put BOM before text, which is 2 bytes. Normally, BOM is used by
text editors and is not displayed, to check if there is BOM prepended I had
to use hex editor and look at the file.

While most text editors know what to do with BOM, I have run into programs
where that caused problems.

Regards,

Peter Bozek

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:14 AM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> I am putting text into a blob
>   TEXT TO BLOB($Text_Ptr->;$Blob;Mac text without length)
> I encrypt the blob
>   ENCRYPT BLOB($Blob;$Private_Key)
>
> I later extract this text
>   DECRYPT BLOB($Blob;$Public_Key)
>   $Destination->:=BLOB to text($Blob;Mac text without length)
>
> The text is extracted - and APPEARS to be the same, however
> the length of the extracted text is 2 characters longer then the
> original text.
> The extra 2 characters are:
> Character code = 0
> And are appended to end of the extracted text.
>
> Anyone have an Idea??
>
> Thanks
> Chip
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> Alcohol is for drinkin'
> Nitromethane is for racing
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Re: Encrypt & decrypt blobs

2019-04-19 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Keisuke,
Thanks.
I'll try on Monday.

The text will likely never be more than 100 characters, so length is not really 
an issue.

I did some quick testing - and it must be the encrypt/decrypt process, and Text 
to blob -> blob to text did not add the extra characters.

Also - I will have to check the docs, but the text is a field rather then a 
variable, so I do not know if Variable to blob work in that situation.

I could create a local text copy and then Variable to Blob...
Chip

> I wouldn't convert the text to MacRoman, max 32,000 bytes (i.e. v2004 
> format) text
> risking data loss - even if the possibility was minimal with small US 
> ASCII - just to be safe (and fast).
> 
>  TEXT TO BLOB($Text_Ptr->;$Blob;Mac text without length)
>  $Destination->:=BLOB to text($Blob;Mac text without length)
> 
> either specify UTF-8 which has no length limit or data loss,
> or even better, VARIABLE TO BLOB which does no conversion at all.
> 
> but I can not say how the 0x00 terminator was introduced,
> whether by OpenSSL which does the encryption or the BLOB/TEXT 
> conversion done by 4D.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Encrypt & decrypt blobs

2019-04-19 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
I wouldn't convert the text to MacRoman, max 32,000 bytes (i.e. v2004 format) 
text
risking data loss - even if the possibility was minimal with small US ASCII - 
just to be safe (and fast).

 TEXT TO BLOB($Text_Ptr->;$Blob;Mac text without length)
 $Destination->:=BLOB to text($Blob;Mac text without length)

either specify UTF-8 which has no length limit or data loss,
or even better, VARIABLE TO BLOB which does no conversion at all.

but I can not say how the 0x00 terminator was introduced,
whether by OpenSSL which does the encryption or the BLOB/TEXT conversion done 
by 4D.



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Encrypt & decrypt blobs

2019-04-19 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
I am putting text into a blob
  TEXT TO BLOB($Text_Ptr->;$Blob;Mac text without length)
I encrypt the blob
  ENCRYPT BLOB($Blob;$Private_Key)

I later extract this text
  DECRYPT BLOB($Blob;$Public_Key)
  $Destination->:=BLOB to text($Blob;Mac text without length)

The text is extracted - and APPEARS to be the same, however
the length of the extracted text is 2 characters longer then the 
original text.
The extra 2 characters are:
Character code = 0
And are appended to end of the extracted text.

Anyone have an Idea??

Thanks
Chip
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