Re: Apple Notary Service
Hi Miyako, I do have the yearly membership and find it important to get our application to behave as closely as possible to what users expect. I often don’t have any contact with someone who downloads our software and if they see any kind of warning that looks fishy they won’t even try it out and I’ll never know the difference. Thanks for the information. Another source of information that I found helpful was: https://blog.zeplin.io/dev-journal-automate-notarizing-macos-apps-94b0b144ba9d -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Aetna, AB Canada > On Mar 15, 2019, at 8:29 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Note: You can code sign your App with the "Mac Developer" profile, which does > not require a $99 membership, just a free apple ID promoted to an Apple > Developer ID. The app will be flagged to be coming from an "unidentified > developer" but the user can still choose to run it. Im my opinion, there is > no reason for a 4D developer to not sign their app at least using this > option. You can also code sign a 4D for iOS app with this option, if you only > need to install and run your app on your own device. The $99 membership > enables the "Developer ID Application" and "Developer ID Installer" profile > and their iOS counterparts required for distribution via the App Store in > addition to ad hoc deployment to registered devices. The enterprise > membership enables distribution outside the App Store, so the two programs > are actually complementary, not mutually exclusive. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Apple Notary Service
Does this really work (or might it break in the future) as 4D modifies the application package at runtime? I noticed that the code signature is no longer valid once you run the application (codesign --verify --verbose /path/to/application). John DeSoi, Ph.D. > On Mar 15, 2019, at 9:29 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Notarisation goes one step further than a normal code sign. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Apple Notary Service
> I think Miyako has something on his github account... Notarisation goes one step further than a normal code sign. This example only deals with code signing. https://github.com/miyako/4d-utility-build-application c.f. http://forums.4d.com/Post/FR/26869162/1/26874716#26874716 Further reading: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizing_your_app_before_distribution https://developer.apple.com/documentation/bundleresources/entitlements/com_apple_security_cs_allow-jit?language=objc Note: You can code sign your App with the "Mac Developer" profile, which does not require a $99 membership, just a free apple ID promoted to an Apple Developer ID. The app will be flagged to be coming from an "unidentified developer" but the user can still choose to run it. Im my opinion, there is no reason for a 4D developer to not sign their app at least using this option. You can also code sign a 4D for iOS app with this option, if you only need to install and run your app on your own device. The $99 membership enables the "Developer ID Application" and "Developer ID Installer" profile and their iOS counterparts required for distribution via the App Store in addition to ad hoc deployment to registered devices. The enterprise membership enables distribution outside the App Store, so the two programs are actually complementary, not mutually exclusive. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Apple Notary Service
Hi David, Thanks! I’m glad to know that it works. I wouldn’t be surprised if we need it this fall. -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Aetna, AB Canada > On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:39 PM, David Ringsmuth wrote: > > I helped my client do this. > ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Apple Notary Service
Hi Jeff, That’s a pretty safe statement to make! :-) I’ll take a look. Thanks much. -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Aetna, AB Canada > On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I think Miyako has something on his github account... ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Apple Notary Service
I think Miyako has something on his github account... > On Mar 15, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Has anyone tried to notarize a built 4D application with Apple yet? Is it > possible with 4D? > > Thanks. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
RE: Apple Notary Service
Cannon, I helped my client do this. Get the basic Apple developer program ID ($99/year) Follow their instructions to generate a certificate for your application. We provided the CSR to the process. They provided the certificate after a few days. hth David Ringsmuth From: Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:24 AM To: 4D iNug Technical Cc: Cannon Smith Subject: Apple Notary Service Has anyone tried to notarize a built 4D application with Apple yet? Is it possible with 4D? Thanks. -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Aetna, AB Canada ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
