Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-11 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
Been there done that

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> On Feb 11, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Jim Hays via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
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> Chuck,
> 
> I've seen some cases where I put a break point in a method that was called
> repeatedly.  I would click on the break point to remove it in the debugger,
> but it would still stop there.
> I solved it by:
> - click to remove the break point
> - click again, adding it back
> - click again to remove it

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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-11 Thread Jim Hays via 4D_Tech
Chuck,

I've seen some cases where I put a break point in a method that was called
repeatedly.  I would click on the break point to remove it in the debugger,
but it would still stop there.
I solved it by:
- click to remove the break point
- click again, adding it back
- click again to remove it

Odd, but it worked and I didn't feel like figuring out why that happened.

Jim

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> 4D Tech mailing list wrote
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> >
> > I have an object method that shows no break points either in the method
> or
> > when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a particular line
> of
> > code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what it might be.
> >
> > Thanks and regards
> > Chuck
>
> Chuck does the code at this line contains the line split Charakter to split
> a long code line into several short lines?
>
> Sometimes my code stop at this line when they pasted from other sources
>
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-10 Thread ADeeg via 4D_Tech
4D Tech mailing list wrote
> Hi All,
> 
> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the method or
> when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a particular line of
> code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what it might be.
> 
> Thanks and regards
> Chuck

Chuck does the code at this line contains the line split Charakter to split
a long code line into several short lines?

Sometimes my code stop at this line when they pasted from other sources 

Armin



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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
I worked on a project that did this too. In that case it turned out to be
an error in some old ALP code. Something subtle like a mistyped variable.
You may have a component or plugin that's generating the error silently.

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> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the method or
> when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a particular line of
> code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what it might be.
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-09 Thread Jeremy French via 4D_Tech
Using the Runtime Explorer window, ave you tried clicking "Delete All" for 
Break and Catch, even if no breaks or catches are listed?


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:39 PM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
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> no break points either in the method or when I show break points, yet it 
> continues to stop at a particular line of code and it is annoying

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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-08 Thread Keith Goebel via 4D_Tech
Chuck,
I have encountered this a few times since at least v15 (now using v17.0 HF3).
The only way I found to clear it is to 
- create a new method 
- copy the code across
- delete old method
I found it impossible to “make it happen” for a reproducible bug for 4D, though 
I did report it anyway (a long time ago).

My biggest “problem” with v17HF3 on Win7 is its habit of ignoring new beak 
points after a while when debugging - what a massive pain… (i have reported it)
I have to restart 4D and then it respects the breakpoints already set on 
startup.
I hope this has been fixed but haven’t seen any mention in later version bug 
fixes.
I have not seen anyone else mention it so maybe it only affects me.
But I digress… 
HTH, Keith

> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the method or 
> when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a particular line of 
> code and it is annoying...
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-08 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
No it is not and I have quite and restarted many times

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> On Feb 8, 2019, at 3:23 AM, Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech 
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> Hi Chuck,
> 
> Is it happening on a line of code which is split up in several lines ('\')?
> I've seen this happening a number of times. Mainly quitting and restarting 4D 
> is enhough to solve this issue. You might try to remove the slash chars, set 
> a breakpoint at the remaining line and remove it right away and then split 
> your line again.
> 
> HTH
> Koen
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>> Op 7 feb. 2019, om 21:39 heeft Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the method or 
>> when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a particular line of 
>> code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what it might be.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-08 Thread Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech
Hi Chuck,

Is it happening on a line of code which is split up in several lines ('\')?
I've seen this happening a number of times. Mainly quitting and restarting 4D 
is enhough to solve this issue. You might try to remove the slash chars, set a 
breakpoint at the remaining line and remove it right away and then split your 
line again.

HTH
Koen
 
> Op 7 feb. 2019, om 21:39 heeft Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the method or 
> when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a particular line of 
> code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what it might be.




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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Alberto Bachler via 4D_Tech
Chuck

I experienced this behavior from time to time since v16r2 (and maybe even v15)
I believe can happen when  2 or more instances of 4D are running at the same 
time

Last time was yesterday (macOS)
I restarted my Mac and everything came back to normality


Cordialmente,

Alberto



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> Hi All,
> 
> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the method or 
> when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a particular line of 
> code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what it might be.
> 
> Thanks and regards
> Chuck
> 
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
Thanks Steve,

I do not think so and the debugger comes up on a NON alp line

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> On Feb 7, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech 
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> Do you have ALP's auto-trace logic turned on?  It is a nice feature that 
> opens the debugger if ALP encounters a problem, which may be what you are 
> seeing.

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RE: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech
Chuck,

Do you have ALP's auto-trace logic turned on?  It is a nice feature that opens 
the debugger if ALP encounters a problem, which may be what you are seeing.


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From: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> On Behalf Of Charles Miller via 
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Nope it is filling arrays and then updating ALP. After tabbing out of query 
field

Chuck

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:15 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
wrote:

> Chuck
> look for a hard break (TRACE)
> either in a called component, plugin or method called via EXECUTE 
> FORMULA
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:12:38 -0500, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
> > Chuck
> > also I get this sometimes when there is break in a method which is 
> > called via EXECUTE FORMULA especially if the method is called during 
> > screen drawing (On display
> > detail)
> >
> > Chip
> > a break in codeOn Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:39:26 -0500, Chuck Miller via 
> > 4D_Tech wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the 
> >> method or when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a 
> >> particular line of code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there 
> >> what it might be.
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
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RE: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Drew Waddell via 4D_Tech
We call these phantom breakpoints.  It's been a bug for so so long.  The only 
way I have figured out how to fix it is to create a new User in Design -> 
Toolbox -> Users and begin to use the new user until the issue presents itself 
again.  For what it's worth we started to notice them a lot when we start using 
the line separator character "\".  I believe there have been taow tickets that 
have gone nowhere in the past.

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Nope it is filling arrays and then updating ALP. After tabbing out of query 
field

Chuck

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:15 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
wrote:

> Chuck
> look for a hard break (TRACE)
> either in a called component, plugin or method called via EXECUTE 
> FORMULA
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:12:38 -0500, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
> > Chuck
> > also I get this sometimes when there is break in a method which is 
> > called via EXECUTE FORMULA especially if the method is called during 
> > screen drawing (On display
> > detail)
> >
> > Chip
> > a break in codeOn Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:39:26 -0500, Chuck Miller via 
> > 4D_Tech wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the 
> >> method or when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a 
> >> particular line of code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there 
> >> what it might be.
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
is there a trace or break in the query?  i.e. Query by Formula where 
the formula is a method


On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:24:27 -0500, Charles Miller via 4D_Tech wrote:
> Nope it is filling arrays and then updating ALP. After tabbing out of query
> field
> 
> Chuck
> 
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:15 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
>> Chuck
>> look for a hard break (TRACE)
>> either in a called component, plugin or method called via EXECUTE
>> FORMULA
>> 
>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:12:38 -0500, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
>>> Chuck
>>> also I get this sometimes when there is break in a method which is
>>> called via EXECUTE FORMULA
>>> especially if the method is called during screen drawing (On display
>>> detail)
>>> 
>>> Chip
>>> a break in codeOn Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:39:26 -0500, Chuck Miller via
>>> 4D_Tech wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have an object method that shows no break points either in the
 method or when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a
 particular line of code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what
 it might be.
 
 Thanks and regards
 Chuck
 
 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
Nope it is filling arrays and then updating ALP. After tabbing out of query
field

Chuck

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> Chuck
> look for a hard break (TRACE)
> either in a called component, plugin or method called via EXECUTE
> FORMULA
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:12:38 -0500, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
> > Chuck
> > also I get this sometimes when there is break in a method which is
> > called via EXECUTE FORMULA
> > especially if the method is called during screen drawing (On display
> > detail)
> >
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Chuck
look for a hard break (TRACE) 
either in a called component, plugin or method called via EXECUTE 
FORMULA

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:12:38 -0500, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote:
> Chuck
> also I get this sometimes when there is break in a method which is 
> called via EXECUTE FORMULA
> especially if the method is called during screen drawing (On display 
> detail)
> 
> Chip
> a break in codeOn Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:39:26 -0500, Chuck Miller via 
> 4D_Tech wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the 
>> method or when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a 
>> particular line of code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what 
>> it might be.
>> 
>> Thanks and regards
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
> 

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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Chuck
also I get this sometimes when there is break in a method which is 
called via EXECUTE FORMULA
especially if the method is called during screen drawing (On display 
detail)

Chip
a break in codeOn Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:39:26 -0500, Chuck Miller via 
4D_Tech wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the 
> method or when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a 
> particular line of code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what 
> it might be.
> 
> Thanks and regards
> Chuck
> 
> 

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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
I already did what you suggest to no avail. I even reccreated code but did
use copy and paste

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:10 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <
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> a break in a component, plug-in
>
> an oddity...
> use runtime explorer to clear all break points
> - if it still persists
> try restart 4D
>
> I have seen this in earlier versions too
> Chip
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:39:26 -0500, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have an object method that shows no break points either in the
> > method or when I show break points, yet it continues to stop at a
> > particular line of code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what
> > it might be.
> >
> > Thanks and regards
> > Chuck
> >
> >
>
> 
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Re: v17 conundrum in design

2019-02-07 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
a break in a component, plug-in

an oddity...
use runtime explorer to clear all break points 
- if it still persists 
try restart 4D

I have seen this in earlier versions too
Chip

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:39:26 -0500, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech wrote:
> Hi All,
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> I have an object method that shows no break points either in the 
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> particular line of code and it is annoying. Any ideas out there what 
> it might be.
> 
> Thanks and regards
> Chuck
> 
> 

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