Hello Stig

The rationale behind a new protocol is, same as all 6lo work, power efficiency 
in IoT space. Now, IoT is a precursor to moving more device to the green side. 
So your point stands. Either we are specific that in the target space there is 
no MLD at all, or we talk interactions between the two. 

IoT devices will typically sleep more than even cats do. They cannot stay awake 
at all times just in case they are be polled for a report. They cannot store 
much code either. The proposal is a simple extension to existing code, since 
the change we're doing here was already done for classical IPv6 ND with RFC 
8505, 8928 and 8929. RFC 8929 typically isolates the non-broadcast IoT edge 
from the broadcast backbone. Note that with RFC 8505, IoT devices do not use 
SNMA so no need for MLD there either.

Now for both ND and MLD, there will be a time of coexistence in the same link. 
The documents for ND is already long awaited. My suggestion is that that a 
future document covers both, and the current draft is for non-broadcast IoT 
links only, no coexistence.

Works?

 Pascal


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stig Venaas <s...@venaas.com>
> Sent: lundi 8 août 2022 19:21
> To: 6lo@ietf.org; draft-ietf-6lo-multicast-registrat...@ietf.org
> Cc: Alvaro Retana <aretana.i...@gmail.com>; p...@ietf.org
> Subject: draft-ietf-6lo-multicast-registration-08 replacing MLD
> 
> Hi 6lo and draft authors
> 
> I have some concerns about this draft replacing MLD for group
> registration.
> 
> Having 2 different protocols for the same thing can be problematic.
> Hosts or routers may need to support both protocols. Is it clear which
> one should be used in different environments? Is there a chance that
> both may be used at the same time in a network? In particular, is there
> a chance that a router may need to simultaneously support both protocols
> on an L3 interface? In that case it must be considered how the two
> protocols interoperate.
> 
> Also, we have been pushing the use of SSM in the IETF for a very long
> time, but this draft only supports ASM since only a group address is
> provided.
> 
> It would be good to have some more info on the need to replace MLD. I
> understand there are concerns about packet loss, limited resources etc.
> 
> Regards,
> Stig
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