[6tisch] draft-tiloca-6tisch-robust-scheduling-01 --- rekeying permutation key

2019-04-02 Thread Michael Richardson
I read draft-tiloca-6tisch-robust-scheduling-01. I found this to be an interesting way to both announce the schedule, and yet, hide it. Very well done. I have some initial comment about the section 3.1 about the adversary. I wondered about why someone would do this. What's the benefit. It

Re: [6tisch] Progress zero-touch document

2019-04-02 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Would be great (actually to reconstruct it!) Who’s in? Regards, Pascal Le 2 avr. 2019 à 18:14, Mališa Vučinić mailto:malisa.vuci...@inria.fr>> a écrit : How about we form a focused design team to start working out the details and we can do the editorial work and publish once the EDHOC

Re: [6tisch] Progress zero-touch document

2019-04-02 Thread Mališa Vučinić
How about we form a focused design team to start working out the details and we can do the editorial work and publish once the EDHOC decision is out? Mališa > On 2 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Michael Richardson wrote: > >> >> What are your thoughts on this? > > If you want to start now, please go

Re: [6tisch] Progress zero-touch document

2019-04-02 Thread Michael Richardson
Mališa Vučinić wrote: > Reading the current version of > draft-ietf-6tisch-dtsecurity-zerotouch-join-03, it seems that there are The current version is shit, and I need to rewrite it, almost from scratch. I intend to do that in the next couple of weeks, once I get the BRSKI through

Re: [6tisch] Progress zero-touch document

2019-04-02 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
No, I'm saying that maybe we can refrain from publishing in the next weeks till the decision is made to form the group. Hopefully that's not too long! All the best, Pascal > -Original Message- > From: Mališa Vučinić > Sent: mardi 2 avril 2019 16:59 > To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) >

Re: [6tisch] Progress zero-touch document

2019-04-02 Thread Mališa Vučinić
Hello Pascal, Are you suggesting that we should start working out the details on using EDHOC but keep an alternative as an appendix in the document? Since we have stalled on this work for some time for reasons outside of the working group control, I think it would make sense to catch up.. Let

Re: [6tisch] Progress zero-touch document

2019-04-02 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Hello Malisa Speaking for myself here, I'm happy that you start on that direction already; but would like to see the edhoc group formed and progressing before committing fully to it. All the best, Pascal > -Original Message- > From: 6tisch <6tisch-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of

[6tisch] Progress zero-touch document

2019-04-02 Thread Mališa Vučinić
Michael, all, With the EDHOC specification finally seeing progress (see [1]), it seems like a good time to restart the work on zero touch and progress the adopted working group document. Reading the current version of draft-ietf-6tisch-dtsecurity-zerotouch-join-03, it seems that there are

[6tisch] IETF 104 WG Minutes and meeting summary

2019-04-02 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
Dear 6TiSCHers As usual the summary of the meeting is posted at https://trac.ietf.org/trac/int/wiki/IETF104 and the minutes are available at https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/minutes-104-6tisch/. Please let us know if we missed anything and we will update : ) The chairs