Re: [9fans] inferno runs on n770 and n800/n810 (was: Re: How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?)

2008-12-19 Thread Robert Raschke
Hi, On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM, fge...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote: i like nokia's line, and would love to see a port of Plan 9 (or Inferno) to the 770 or N800 (there's an even newer one, but i forget the model off hand and

Re: [9fans] inferno runs on n770 and n800/n810 (was: Re: How can I boot plan9 on my Compaq AlphaServer DS10L?)

2008-12-19 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Hello ! And how about JIT ?? 2008/12/19 fge...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote: i like nokia's line, and would love to see a port of Plan 9 (or Inferno) to the 770 or N800 (there's an even newer one, but i forget the model off hand and

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread erik quanstrom
The places that DMAPPEND is used most commonly are log files and mail boxes. mailboxes are append only, however deleting a message requires rewriting the mailbox, which isn't possible. so a temporary mbox is written, has its mode tweaked and then replaces the mbox. L.mbox is exclusive open

Re: [9fans] Help with device and clone?

2008-12-19 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Meh, I keep forgetting to hit reply-all or something. 2008/12/19 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: That's where I was looking initially -- it looks like that's all only done when you're connecting to a venti, and it seems like it definitely happens after the links run anyway. Links happen

Re: [9fans] Help with device and clone?

2008-12-19 Thread erik quanstrom
i did get the original. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
client by definition knows more than the server. i assume you mean knows less? the server knows where EOF is and which files to enforce append-only on. your #1 seems to only exist because the client doesn't have that info.

Re: [9fans] how to install python?

2008-12-19 Thread Juan M. Mendez
2008/12/18 Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com: Hello, please, what's the easiest way to install python on plan9? I found python.tgz under fgb. Is that the right way to go? Thanks Ruda Hi Rudolf, Perl and python are in the /n/sources/extra directories of sources. This are my notes of

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Dec 19 14:24:52 EST 2008, ano...@gmail.com wrote: client by definition knows more than the server. i assume you mean knows less? the server knows where EOF is and which files to enforce append-only on. your #1 seems to only exist because the client doesn't have that info. i think

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote: client by definition knows more than the server. i assume you mean knows less? the server knows where EOF is and which files to enforce append-only on. your #1 seems to only exist because the client doesn't have that

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:23 AM, Russ Cox wrote: Append-only and exclusive-use are properties of files and need to be enforced uniformly across all clients to be meaningful. They must be per-file, not per-fd. Two questions: 1. But before I ask this one: I don't deny that per-file append-only

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread erik quanstrom
Two questions: 1. But before I ask this one: I don't deny that per-file append-only is *extremely* useful. My question is a different one: what is the danger of N clients accesing the file X in append-only mode and M clients accesing it in random access mode? Could you,

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Dec 19, 2008, at 8:44 AM, ron minnich wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote: On Dec 18, 2008, at 7:26 PM, ron minnich wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote: Its fun, yes. But I believe this is more of a

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote: Two questions: 1. But before I ask this one: I don't deny that per-file append-only is *extremely* useful. My question is a different one: what is the danger of N clients accesing the file X in append-only mode

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Dec 19, 2008, at 11:56 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: Two questions: 1. But before I ask this one: I don't deny that per-file append- only is *extremely* useful. My question is a different one: what is the danger of N clients accesing the file X in append-only mode and M clients

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread erik quanstrom
It is difficult to answer your question without knowing what rewrite actually does and how mailboxes are structured. But in an imaginary world where a mailbox is a list of constant sized blocks (sizeiounit) a bunch of simultaneous appends and rewrites of existing blocks would work perfectly

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread Charles Forsyth
if that -1 would be seen on the wire no. it's just a flag to select the code path that provides the offset, and entirely internal (just as well).

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-19 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: if that -1 would be seen on the wire no. it's just a flag to select the code path that provides the offset, and entirely internal (just as well). I figured as much. Oh well. Sorry, Roman. ron

[9fans] [possibly off-topic] something random I found a few months ago

2008-12-19 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A portion of the Mac OS X cat manual page. This was back in July. I don't remember if this was while I had OS X 10.4 or 10.5. Either way, it's the same now (10.5.6). CAT(1)BSD General Commands Manual

[9fans] Embedded MIPS board

2008-12-19 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
Have people seen http://wiki.ubnt.com/wiki/index.php/RouterStation ? Any idea on what porting the kernel to this guy would be like? Thanks. --nwf; pgpkIwKBWkcjF.pgp Description: PGP signature