Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread Josh Wood
How do I enable hd dma? There's a dmamode=ask in my plan9.ini, but I don't see that option mentioned in the plan9.ini man. echo dma on /dev/sdXY/ctl see in sd(3). I've been running into mention of kfs throughout various rc scripts and whatnot; is kfs simply the default file system

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread Josh Wood
Fossil is user-mode, while kfs is a kernel file system. This isn't the best way to say what I was trying to say, and may be misleading. Both are user programs; kfs is found at /$objtype/bin/disk/kfs. -Josh

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread Corey
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 22:59:49 Josh Wood wrote: How do I enable hd dma? There's a dmamode=ask in my plan9.ini, but I don't see that option mentioned in the plan9.ini man. echo dma on /dev/sdXY/ctl see in sd(3). Excellent - thanks. As a further question on that point, where would

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread Josh Wood
As a further question on that point, where would you say would be the best place to persist that command? As far as I'm aware, my likely choices would be one of (in order of execution): /rc/bin/termrc /rc/bin/termrc.local /cfg/$sysname/termrc I generally avoid touching termrc, put

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread Richard Miller
/rc/bin/termrc /rc/bin/termrc.local /cfg/$sysname/termrc ... but which would be considered the most logical place to deal with things such as setting hd parameters for the machine on bootup like the 'echo dma on /dev/sdC0/ctl' example above? In /cfg/$sysname/termrc, because you might not

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread erik quanstrom
... but which would be considered the most logical place to deal with things such as setting hd parameters for the machine on bootup like the 'echo dma on /dev/sdC0/ctl' example above? also see dmaon(8). just as an obvious note, this only affects interfaces using ide or ide emulation. you

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:13 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: ... but which would be considered the most logical place to deal with things such as setting hd parameters for the machine on bootup like the 'echo dma on /dev/sdC0/ctl' example above? also see dmaon(8). just as

Re: [9fans] strange behaviour of ps under load

2009-07-22 Thread Sape Mullender
Very odd. There are no blocking operations in reading the status file in /proc. The only thing I can think of is that you have something bound (snapfs?) in /proc and that you're hanging on a stale mount point. Is the clock set properly on that machine? Sape hello today i found

Re: [9fans] strange behaviour of ps under load

2009-07-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Jul 22 11:49:54 EDT 2009, s...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: Very odd. There are no blocking operations in reading the status file in /proc. The only thing I can think of is that you have something bound (snapfs?) in /proc and that you're hanging on a stale mount point. Is the clock

Re: [9fans] strange behaviour of ps under load

2009-07-22 Thread gdiaz
hello I already rebooted the machine so I can't check this anymore on a live system, but as you said, the clock was out of sync 10 minutes from what it sould, I activated timesync again ( /proc still shows the same incorrect date). Also i did a snap of a broken proc a day before I found the

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread hiro
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that, in an emulated environment, I'd pick kfs over Venti, most of the time, unless your goal is to learn about Venti and Fossil Why specifically in an emulated environment?

Re: [9fans] first timer - editing plan9.ini

2009-07-22 Thread J. R. Mauro
On Jul 19, 2009, at 22:29, Corey co...@bitworthy.net wrote: On Sunday 19 July 2009 19:12:50 Skip Tavakkolian wrote: The few minutes spent learning ed(1) will be well repaid. You'll be one of the smartest guys on your block. i second that. learning it has been one of the best investments

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:57 AM, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that, in an emulated environment, I'd pick kfs over Venti, most of the time, unless your goal is to learn about Venti and Fossil Why specifically in an emulated environment? Just because it seems

[9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern browser?

2009-07-22 Thread Jason Catena
This passage seems to me to speak to the minimal spirit in Plan 9. ... the best choice of software is often no software -- and barring that, as little software as you can possibly get away with, and even then, only from the most reputable and reliable sources.

Re: [9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern browser?

2009-07-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
if there is no real browser for the platform, how will Plan 9 participate in the cloud computing (r)evolution? not using a browser. careful now. down with this sort of thing!

Re: [9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern browser?

2009-07-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
Which brings me to repeat a question about Plan9, from another thread: if there is no real browser for the platform, how will Plan 9 participate in the cloud computing (r)evolution?  I suppose it would be enough to have a Chromium port, if Chrome and the Chrome OS gain traction. clouds

Re: [9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern browser?

2009-07-22 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
let´s rewrite everything in Ada. We can use the distributed systems annex in a cloud. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Charles Forsythfors...@terzarima.net wrote: if there is no real browser for the platform, how will Plan 9 participate in the cloud computing (r)evolution? not using a browser.

Re: [9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern browser?

2009-07-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
not using a browser. careful now. down with this sort of thing! does this mean we should expect an influx of viewers due to the negative publicity?

Re: [9fans] Does as little software as possible include a modern browser?

2009-07-22 Thread Jason Catena
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 18:19, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.netwrote: if there is no real browser for the platform, how will Plan 9 participate in the cloud computing (r)evolution? not using a browser. Fair enough. I hope the services I want to use (will) have a non-browser API (eg

Re: [9fans] dcp - a deep copy script, better than dircp

2009-07-22 Thread Federico G. Benavento
btw, shouldn't mkfs use allproto by default like mk9660 does or am I just missing something? On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Charles Forsythfors...@terzarima.net wrote: Before I say anythign daft, what's '+'? It does not appear to be special on my system. it's interpreted by mkfs in its proto

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread Corey
Thanks for the comments everyone. Once I got to a point where I had a cpu/auth server kindof working, and had become slightly more comfortable with the bare rudimentary basics of working in rio acme, I decided to stop, and start all over again from scratch - but this time taking extensive

[9fans] p9p threadpin() / threadunpin() ?

2009-07-22 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
Hi, I noticed that p9p has threadpin() and threadunpin() in its thread library... they claim to make the current thread the only one runnable in this proc. I'm failing to see the purpose of these... a thread is not subject to preemptive scheduling, it can achieve the same effect by not calling

Re: [9fans] a few misc. questions...

2009-07-22 Thread Federico G. Benavento
there is also this... http://www.magma.com.ni/moin/Plan9Tutorial On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Coreyco...@bitworthy.net wrote: Thanks for the comments everyone. Once I got to a point where I had a cpu/auth server kindof working, and had become slightly more comfortable with the bare