Re: [9fans] off topic: manual sets

2009-08-01 Thread Uriel
Thanks to Fish's contribution I have made the Unix 8th Edition manuals available at: http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/ Tons of fascinating stuff there, including the jerq docs in section 9 ( http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/9/ ) and what I think is the oldest documentation of the /proc file system

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jul 31 23:13:51 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:56 PM, J.R. Maurojrm8...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't ASUS burn the Linux distro into a chip, though? Maybe there are utilities to flash it with something else. see flashrom at coreboot.org This is a

Re: [9fans] off topic: manual sets

2009-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/ Super Bats! - erik

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:58:10AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: why not just use normal hardware and buy a DOM for it? none of coraid's machines, including the fileserver (!) have spinning media. only the srs (coraid storage appliances) do. you can get a 128mb pata dom for $13 and sata

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
Well, if the DOM is compatible with traditionnal IDE it could be, too, an option for installation: an easily pluggable HD instead of floppy or CD. the dom is compatable with traditional ide, and with the distributed sdata.c. before i found the doms, i used a pata - cf bridge. - erik

Re: [9fans] ceph

2009-08-01 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Roman Shaposhnikr...@sun.com wrote: What are your clients running? Linux What are their requirements as far as POSIX is concerned? 10,000 machines, working on a single app, must have access to a common file store with full posix semantics and it all has to

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread ron minnich
btw the sata FLASH parts are surprisingly fast. Not at all like USB sticks, if that is what you are used to. ron

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:49 AM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: btw the sata FLASH parts are surprisingly fast. Not at all like USB sticks, if that is what you are used to. ron Ron, have you researched any long-term wear studies on these flash drives? I've heard a lot of good things,

[9fans] Announcing the first Hungarian Plan 9 mailing list

2009-08-01 Thread Bela Valek
Harka Győző at the University of Pécs has just started a new mailing list for the Hungarian fans of Plan 9. We discuss topics about our favorite operating system in our native language. You can join us at: https://omega.ttk.pte.hu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/9rajong

[9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread Elizabeth Jones
There exist crash bugs in some of the system call handlers to do with string validation; sometimes, only the first byte of an argument string is validated. The following program reliably causes a kernel panic for me: #include u.h #include libc.h #define SEGBASE (char*)0x4000 #define

Re: [9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread Charles Forsyth
maybe the kernel should use something like this to validate pointers to null terminated strings? it could just call vmemchr correctly or vmemchr could be a touch more careful

Re: [9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread Russ Cox
calling vmemchr assumes that the memory isn't being changed by some other proc mapping the same page. if you find the NUL in one pass and then call strcpy or strlen on the pointer later, the other proc might have pulled the NUL in the interim. there is a function in the kernel called

Re: [9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread Elizabeth Jones
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009, Russ Cox wrote: calling vmemchr assumes that the memory isn't being changed by some other proc mapping the same page. if you find the NUL in one pass and then call strcpy or strlen on the pointer later, the other proc might have pulled the NUL in the interim. With you so

Re: [9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread Russ Cox
validname0 looks like it is trying to be too clever. A better version of the first if statement would be: if((ulong)name KZERO) { validaddr((ulong)name, 1, 0); if(!dup) print(warning: validname called from %lux with user pointer,

Re: [9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread cinap_lenrek
yes: if((ulong)name KZERO){ validaddr((ulong)name, 1, 0); if(!dup) print(warning: validname called from %lux with user pointer, pc); p = name; t = BY2PG-((ulong)p(BY2PG-1));

[9fans] outage Aug 2nd

2009-08-01 Thread geoff
Sunday afternoon (EDT), August 2nd, we'll move the Murray Hill Plan 9 systems back into our newly-renovated machine room. Plan 9 will be unavailable for some of this time.

Re: [9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
diff -c /n/dump/2009/0801/sys/src/9/port/sysproc.c sysproc.c /n/dump/2009/0801/sys/src/9/port/sysproc.c:234,247 - sysproc.c:234,248 ulong magic, text, entry, data, bss; Tos *tos; - validaddr(arg[0], 1, 0); - file = (char*)arg[0]; + file = nil; indir =

Re: [9fans] Kernel crash bug

2009-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Aug 1 21:40:18 EDT 2009, quans...@quanstro.net wrote: diff -c /n/dump/2009/0801/sys/src/9/port/sysproc.c sysproc.c /n/dump/2009/0801/sys/src/9/port/sysproc.c:234,247 - sysproc.c:234,248 ready. shoot. aim. sorry. i sent the wrong patch. i also should have mentioned that this patch is

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread John DeGood
J.R. Mauro wrote: Doesn't ASUS burn the Linux distro into a chip, though? Maybe there are utilities to flash it with something else. I believe new ASUS motherboards typically boot Splashtop from hard disk, not from flash. On my ASUS M4A78 PLUS, Splashtop can be installed into a directory tree

Re: [9fans] just an idea (Splashtop like)

2009-08-01 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 10:55 PM, John DeGoodb...@degood.org wrote: J.R. Mauro wrote: Doesn't ASUS burn the Linux distro into a chip, though? Maybe there are utilities to flash it with something else. I believe new ASUS motherboards typically boot Splashtop from hard disk, not from flash.

[9fans] Plan 9 from Outer Space, August 20

2009-08-01 Thread Russ Cox
http://www.ncm.com/Fathom/Comedy/RiffTrax.aspx Russ