Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)

2009-10-07 Thread Rodriguez Faszanatas
If you aren't trying to build a terminal, the marvell sheevaplug works well That is the point. My employer is interestet in a non-intel terminal. And yeap you're right, the beagle isn't that nice.

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-07 Thread Mechiel Lukkien
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 12:50:18PM -0700, ron minnich wrote: I'd like to have a hack session the wed. morning before IWP9. What I'd like to propose is a sheeva plugfest. People commit to bringing a plug and we get them set up to run Plan 9. Any interest? inferno might be a good target

Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)

2009-10-07 Thread Richard Miller
Just like you wouldn't have wanted to redo the microcode in your Vax 11/750, even if you could have. Speak for yourself. I don't know about the VAX, but writing microcode for the Perkin-Elmer 3220 was fun and useful as well. It was nicely integerated into Unix, so different processes could

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread John Stalker
one last note on this because it is kind of interesting. ... I think that in limited situations, inconsistency is a good thing. And, conversely, one can take consistency as an absolute good, and run off the road. ... ron I agree with most of this, and with most of what I've edited out. But I

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread roger peppe
2009/10/7 John Stalker stal...@maths.tcd.ie: Rm is, I think, an example of someone who simply wasn't thinking properly.  In        rm `{ complicated pipeline } I almost certainly want the exit status to reflect whether all the selected files were deleted, even if there weren't any, so I

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread erik quanstrom
Everything can be carried to extreme. Even ancestor worship. The basic utilities were written by smart people who didn't always fully understand what they were doing. There is nothing radical about suggesting that we try not to repeat their mistakes. well why not take your own advice and

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread John Stalker
Everything can be carried to extreme. Even ancestor worship. The basic utilities were written by smart people who didn't always fully understand what they were doing. There is nothing radical about suggesting that we try not to repeat their mistakes. well why not take your own advice

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-07 Thread Michaelian Ennis
http://www.pacificwings.com/gsky/gs/ $89 USD commuter flight round-trip Atlanta - Athens. ian

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
Michaelian Ennis wrote: http://www.pacificwings.com/gsky/gs/ $89 USD commuter flight round-trip Atlanta - Athens. ian viamichelin.com puts it at 127 km, ~12 Euro for fuel, and 1hr 40 minutes. Bill

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-07 Thread Jeff Sickel
Cheaper than car rental for wed-sat. That said, I'm arriving Wednesday morning in Atlanta and have a car lined up if anyone needs a ride. -jas On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Michaelian Ennis wrote: http://www.pacificwings.com/gsky/gs/ $89 USD commuter flight round-trip Atlanta - Athens.

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Newsham
Me, I see us sitting in the hotel lobby one evening surrounded by pitchers and wires and boards and maybe soldering irons. I already almost got thrown out a nice hotel for doing that sort of thing ... that's all it takes nowadays I guess. http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/paranoia.jpg ron

[9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX
Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support?

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote: Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support? Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB ~bridge chips are you trying to use it with? ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome onboard about 2+ years ago.. And the CD

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
W B Hacker wrote: Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote: Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support? Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB ~bridge chips are you trying to use it with? ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome onboard about 2+ years

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB ~bridge chips are you trying to use it with? ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome onboard about 2+ years ago.. It's a 1GHz C7 EPIA mini-ITX board, CN400 chipset (I *think* -- I can't get at it right this second

Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)

2009-10-07 Thread Aharon Robbins
In article 13426df10910061432y17cf8632ta09af4ffe2153...@mail.gmail.com you write: On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Aharon Robbins arn...@skeeve.com wrote: I understand all your points, and many of them are good ones. But there really are places where you don't want to go, and into the chipset

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote: Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB ~bridge chips are you trying to use it with? ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome onboard about 2+ years ago.. It's a 1GHz C7 EPIA mini-ITX board, CN400 chipset (I *think*

[9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Newsham
Anyone playing with android phones? There's a lot of devices on it that might be interesting to export. Would be pretty easy to make a 9p server that gives you access to the GPS positioning, the accelerometer, or processed position (compass, pitch, roll), etc.. Are any of these of interest to

Re: [9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-07 Thread Christopher Nielsen
I just bought one last week, so I haven't had much chance to hack around on it. I am definitely interested, though. Work has been and will continue to be busy, so I haven't had / won't have much time to work on side projects. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 15:32, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: