[9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread Tim Climber
Is this possible for UNIX philosophy to develop further? Let's say, XML-coded trees or graphs instead of one-line strings in stdin/ stdout.Or LISP S-expressions. New set of utilities for filtering such streams, grep for XML trees, etc. Building environment for dataflow programming from shell

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jan 18 06:08:05 EST 2010, climber@gmail.com wrote: Is this possible for UNIX philosophy to develop further? Let's say, XML-coded trees or graphs instead of one-line strings in stdin/ stdout.Or LISP S-expressions. New set of utilities for filtering such streams, grep for XML trees,

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread Steve Simon
Building environment for dataflow programming from shell interpreter. This is always somthing I have wanted to do for video stream processing, writeing a limited proceedural language which can be refactored as a dataflow graph for efficent implementation (of video processing). I always

[9fans] SVN

2010-01-18 Thread Steve Simon
I am told that the company I work for have decided to move from CVS to SVN, so I have to follow. Has anyone ported SVN to plan9 (I only need the client side), or alternatively is anyone using linuxemu to run the Linux binary? -Steve

Re: [9fans] SVN

2010-01-18 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Jan 18, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Steve Simon wrote: I am told that the company I work for have decided to move from CVS to SVN, so I have to follow. The logical choice--given Subversion was always intended as _the_ CVS replacement. Has anyone ported SVN to plan9 (I only need the client side),

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
Have a look at PUSH (PODC 2009) Details still developing but the PODC paper gives you an idea of direction. -Eric Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Tim Climber climber@gmail.com wrote: Is this possible for UNIX philosophy to develop further? Let's say, XML-coded

Re: [9fans] Just one piece o' help.

2010-01-18 Thread Robert Raschke
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: naturally, bitmaps are hard to read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ASCII_art_conversion_tool (Something along those lines at least.) Robby

Re: [9fans] SVN

2010-01-18 Thread Federico G. Benavento
I use linuxemu, the link below is a standalone bundle executable, you use it like a regular program (no need to install linuxemu separately) http://9hal.ath.cx/usr/cinap_lenrek/lbun/svn On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: I am told that the company I work

[9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread David Leimbach
The SVN thread got me thinking that I had remembered seeing Ron post something about what I thought was an in-kernel LinuxEMU that got a little better performance on plan 9. Is this true? I know the currently LinuxEMU is pretty impressive and can run a large range of programs (Web browsers

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread Aharon Robbins
In article c563b2f7-92ac-463a-864c-267721ddb...@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com you write: Is this possible for UNIX philosophy to develop further? Let's say, XML-coded trees or graphs instead of one-line strings in stdin/ stdout.Or LISP S-expressions. New set of utilities for filtering such

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Have a look at PUSH (PODC 2009) I had a google but couldn't find it, could you send me a link to the paper http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1582780dl=GUIDEcoll=GUIDECFID=64334509CFTOKEN=48344220 If you don't have a

Re: [9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread ron minnich
I have a syscall emulation implementation in the 9k kernel that is a starting point but not nearly as complete as linuxemu. People are welcome to have a go at it. The big advantage I see is that the emulation overhead for very common calls (read, write, etc.) is pretty much zero. ron

Re: [9fans] dataflow programming from shell interpreter

2010-01-18 Thread Tim Newsham
This is always somthing I have wanted to do for video stream processing, writeing a limited proceedural language which can be refactored as a dataflow graph for efficent implementation (of video processing). I'm sure you could do some stuff, but lots of interesting video and audio processing

Re: [9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread David Leimbach
That's pretty great! Is that on contrib? On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:01 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: I have a syscall emulation implementation in the 9k kernel that is a starting point but not nearly as complete as linuxemu. People are welcome to have a go at it. The big

Re: [9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread ron minnich
http://bitbucket.org/ericvh/hare/ no support from anyone and it's not really set up to work on a PC. There is an issue that PPC has only one system call vector. So what you do write write a value to /dev/cnkemu to switch modes. You can start up with plan 9 system calls, then switch modes to

Re: [9fans] SVN

2010-01-18 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: On Jan 18, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Steve Simon wrote: I am told that the company I work for have decided to move from CVS to SVN, so I have to follow. The logical choice--given Subversion was always intended as _the_ CVS

Re: [9fans] IWP9 Acid Trips Video

2010-01-18 Thread Uriel
There are mirrors of the videos and other stuff at http://iwp9.cat-v.org but in this case I think the original recording is simply broken, sorry :( uriel On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: I finally got around to watching Russ' Acid talk,

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2010-01-18 Thread erik quanstrom
Subject floating point puzzle i'm seeing a crash in in _v2d. unfortunately, i don't see how this is happening. 8.out 8535: suicide: sys: fp: stack underflow fppc=0x6397 status=0x81e1 pc=0x63a5 however, acid says that the Vlong passed in was all zeros. the code generating the call to _v2d is

Re: [9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread cinap_lenrek
i think a lot of the slowdown comes from that linux was not streamlined its userspace, but the userspace just got more and more complicated and does tons of redundant stuff... what they did then was not to fix userspace, but they optimized the kernel to cache anything... look at some typical

Re: [9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread David Leimbach
Good post! Thanks for the information. I have looked at linux traces before and couldn't figure out why the hell so much crap was being done. It's as if glibc is throwing calls at the system to figure out which kernel it's on - another good argument for the FreeBSD model of keeping kernel and

Re: [9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread David Leimbach
Also, the more I think about it, the more interesting I think it is to run different OSes in different domains on the same machines anyway. If you want to make one thing work with another, we've got cool stuff like 9p and v9fs to bridge gaps. This is a very good way to force a separation of

Re: [9fans] LinuxEMU

2010-01-18 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
http://www.linux-kvm.org/wiki/images/4/41/KvmForum2008$kdf2008_16.pdf On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 3:20 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: Also, the more I think about it, the more interesting I think it is to run different OSes in different domains on the same machines anyway.  If you

[9fans] How to add djet500' driver to gs?

2010-01-18 Thread Frederik Caulier
Hello 9fans I'm currently trying to get my HP Deskjet 500 (/dev/lptr1data) working in native Plan 9. Using 'lp -d hpdeskjet file' the printer works basically; it takes in a sheet and starts printing. But it prints only weird symbols and mishandles newlines etc.. I did a little research and found