Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?

2010-01-24 Thread Yi DAI
Thanks Frederik, your and Russ' reply was quite informative. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Frederik Caulier aed...@gmail.com wrote: You're welcome to make changes and distribute those via contrib. To get your own directory under /n/sources/contrib, mail cont...@plan9.bell-labs.com. You

[9fans] mount acme on plan9port

2010-01-24 Thread Lorenzo Bolla
Hi all, I'm trying to use 9 mount to mount acme's socket (in `namespace`/acme) to some directory in /mnt (let's say /mnt/acme). I'm using ArchLInux: $ uname -a Linux eee 2.6.32-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 26 08:26:17 UTC 2009 i686 Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux The

Re: [9fans] Are we ready for DNSSEC ?

2010-01-24 Thread hiro
so you need to have a more secure dns because you don't trust your ssl? On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 2:18 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: doesn't work with the recent renegotiation bug. disable renegotiation. but i don't think one can dismiss dns as a non-issue. dns is a

Re: [9fans] Are we ready for DNSSEC ?

2010-01-24 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Jan 24 08:21:50 EST 2010, 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: so you need to have a more secure dns because you don't trust your ssl? do you feel dnssec provides the same or worse security? why? the simple answer to your question is yes. the renegotiation bug in ssl requires you to start

Re: [9fans] mount acme on plan9port

2010-01-24 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to use 9 mount to mount acme's socket (in `namespace`/acme) to some directory in /mnt (let's say /mnt/acme). I'm using ArchLInux: $ uname -a Linux eee 2.6.32-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 26 08:26:17 UTC 2009 i686

Re: [9fans] mount acme on plan9port

2010-01-24 Thread Lorenzo Bolla
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to use 9 mount to mount acme's socket (in `namespace`/acme) to some directory in /mnt (let's say /mnt/acme). I'm using ArchLInux: $

Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?

2010-01-24 Thread Tim Newsham
1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. Wasn't this a concession? That slope is pretty slippery, isn't it? DAY Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-24 Thread Tim Newsham
I have never felt the need for tools like these, I use the mouse to edit the text on the screen (changing history), I then double click to the right of the line and click send which resubmits the text. The idea that any text on the screen may be used to form a new command is very powerful, but

Re: [9fans] Are we ready for DNSSEC ?

2010-01-24 Thread Tim Newsham
dns is a non-issue if the rest of ssl is working. dns is irrelevant if it isn't. Except when SSL has chinks in its armor. Like incidents of certificate authorities being convinced to give out certs for domains that don't belong to the requestor. Or bugs in SSL cert validation that compares

Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?

2010-01-24 Thread John Floren
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Yi DAI plm@gmail.com wrote: 1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. This is the behavior of Acme-SAC, as I recall, so one would think such a change should be easy

Re: [9fans] mount acme on plan9port

2010-01-24 Thread Russ Cox
plan9port works well with FUSE. It works less well with the 9p module. Assuming you have write permission on /mnt/acme and FUSE installed, acme -m /mnt/acme should work just fine. Russ

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-24 Thread David Leimbach
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: I have never felt the need for tools like these, I use the mouse to edit the text on the screen (changing history), I then double click to the right of the line and click send which resubmits the text. The idea that any

Re: [9fans] mount acme on plan9port

2010-01-24 Thread David Leimbach
How about on MacFUSE? I remember there being some issues there. In fact, I'm now using an SSHFS that is *not* a FUSE module, but a pretty nicely done independent implementation. Dave On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote: plan9port works well with FUSE. It works

Re: [9fans] Are we ready for DNSSEC ?

2010-01-24 Thread Russ Cox
you are changing the topic. your original mail claimed to be worried about man-in-the-middle attacks. that means the attacker can respond to arbitrary traffic; the fact that you can verify the dns response is irrelevant if when you try to connect to the correct ip address the attacker handles it

Re: [9fans] mount acme on plan9port

2010-01-24 Thread Russ Cox
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:09 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: How about on MacFUSE?  I remember there being some issues there.  In fact, I'm now using an SSHFS that is *not* a FUSE module, but a pretty nicely done independent implementation. The only MacFUSE issues have been using

Re: [9fans] Are we ready for DNSSEC ?

2010-01-24 Thread Tim Newsham
you are changing the topic. your original mail claimed to be worried about man-in-the-middle attacks. that means the attacker can respond to arbitrary traffic; the fact that you can verify the dns response is irrelevant if when you try to connect to the correct ip address the attacker handles

Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?

2010-01-24 Thread Charles Forsyth
1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. you're assuming the task is symmetric; perhaps left/right and up/down aren't analogous, because x movement in a fixed y (left/right) is not the same as y

Re: [9fans] Are we ready for DNSSEC ?

2010-01-24 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Jan 24 17:15:17 EST 2010, news...@lava.net wrote: you are changing the topic. your original mail claimed to be worried about man-in-the-middle attacks. that means the attacker can respond to arbitrary traffic; the fact that you can verify the dns response is irrelevant if

[9fans] man 6 authsrv

2010-01-24 Thread erik quanstrom
does anyone know why the → A is just missing from the output unless the output is non-text? i haven't had time to get to the bottom of this. - erik context: The protocol to obtain a ticket pair is: .TP .IR C \(- A .IR AuthTreq , .IR IDs , .IR DN , .IR CHs , .IR IDc , .IR IDr .sp -\n(PDu

Re: [9fans] man 6 authsrv

2010-01-24 Thread Akshat Kumar
why not just use the arrow symbol directly, in the troff file? On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: does anyone know why the → A is just missing from the output unless the output is non-text? i haven't had time to get to the bottom of this. - erik

Re: [9fans] man 6 authsrv

2010-01-24 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Jan 24 20:41:14 EST 2010, aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote: why not just use the arrow symbol directly, in the troff file? it was like that originally, and is not realted to the problem. you can replace the → with and you'll see that the output is adjusted but the doesn't

[9fans] partial cp

2010-01-24 Thread Akshat Kumar
I was copying a 1.75G file via drawterm, when the computer went to sleep around 1.16G of the way through. The copy was being done by fcp. I presume fcp, like cp, copies from start to finish, so what are some suggested ways to copy just the rest of the file, without starting all over? I'd like to