Re: [9fans] boot errors using most recent plan9.iso

2010-05-13 Thread Corey
On Thursday 13 May 2010 9:22:08 Corey wrote: > I'm reviewing a draft plan 9 installation howto I wrote a while back, > Oh yeah - someone kindly hosted the current draft (v. 0.2) here: http://mirror.9grid.fr/mirror.9grid.fr/plan9-cpu-auth-server-howto.html

[9fans] boot errors using most recent plan9.iso

2010-05-13 Thread Corey
Attempting new plan9 installation, seeing this sort of thing going on: bios 0: drive 0x80: 80.026,361,856 bytes, type 3 biosdiskcall: int 13 op 0x42 drive 0x80 failed, ah error 0x80 sectread: bios failed to read 512 @ sector 0 of 0x80 ... searching 9fans, I see that others have had same issue,

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu May 13 23:15:28 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: >> I'm not taking for granted that we need one. > > i don't know making this needs to be a binary switch. It doesn't. But somebody needs to sign up to get the proceedings printed,

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread David Leimbach
Wow confusing and a little disappointing, but not unheard of :-) On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > they've got everyone confused. here's an informative thread: > > http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1551.msg9645#msg9645 > > on the guruplu

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 13 23:15:28 EDT 2010, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM, EBo wrote: > > > If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the > > proceedings? > > I'm not taking for granted that we need one. i don't know making this needs to be a binar

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread EBo
>> If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the >> proceedings? > > I'm not taking for granted that we need one. ok. EBo --

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > I do not like Boston as a destination. it's ok, I think it's going to be seattle :-) ron

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:45 PM, EBo wrote: > If you want a workshop format, then what are you looking for to be in the > proceedings? I'm not taking for granted that we need one. ron

Re: [9fans] ntp

2010-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:09 PM, wrote: > Hello, > > I want to let a freshly installed Plan 9 box use NTP but can't get it > to work. > > I used the explanation under "SETTING UP CORRECT TIMEZONE" from > http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installation_instructions/ but > noticed some things: >

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread EBo
> I think Skip and I and the other guys who are doing the work are > settling on seattle. The site of the meeting is still not fixed. But > the airport has great connections and great mass transit to a nice > downtown; the hotel prices are great; it's a very nice city to meet > in; and, well, nobo

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread Jeff Sickel
I do not like Boston as a destination. The last four times I've travelled there, or through there, I've been stuck overnight in the airport. As far as I'm concerned, tread carefully when flying through Logan. Boston itself can be enjoyable, and the surrounding pirtions of the North East are n

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread ron minnich
I think Skip and I and the other guys who are doing the work are settling on seattle. The site of the meeting is still not fixed. But the airport has great connections and great mass transit to a nice downtown; the hotel prices are great; it's a very nice city to meet in; and, well, nobody has come

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread Chad Brown
I'm vaguely affiliated with MIT still via their student computing group (SIPB). We've looked into convention/event support at MIT before, and the bottom line is that such things really need a professor or department head as a sponsor. *Chad On May 13, 2010, at 11:16 AM, EBo wrote: > SeaTa

Re: [9fans] configure a plan9 cpu+file+auth server

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
> But, when i got home this morning, i tried to reproduce > the problem at my home plan9 installation and i didn't face the > same problem. and i was able to go through the first step. > the only difference is; > my home installation was from sept. 2009 iso and > my installation at work is from apr

Re: [9fans] ntp

2010-05-13 Thread Jacob Todd
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:09:36PM +0200, fr...@inua.be wrote: cp termrc termrc.local Then make changes to it. pgpb0uVR5shNe.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
they've got everyone confused. here's an informative thread: http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?topic=1551.msg9645#msg9645 on the guruplug there's no miniusb for the console; it's jtag and you'll need the appropriately named "guruplug jtag board". >> > In the sheeva you can access the J

Re: [9fans] configure a plan9 cpu+file+auth server

2010-05-13 Thread ruel hernandez
> > > > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:24:53 +0100 > From: "Steve Simon" > Subject: Re: [9fans] configure a plan9 cpu+file+auth server > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Is this an authentication problem? > are you running authentication? > > These might give you a hint a

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > > In the sheeva you can access the Jtag through the usb port... > > but the (newer) guruplug does not. it requires the "guruplug jtag > board", for accessing the console and they don't make it obvious when > you order t

[9fans] ntp

2010-05-13 Thread frank
Hello, I want to let a freshly installed Plan 9 box use NTP but can't get it to work. I used the explanation under "SETTING UP CORRECT TIMEZONE" from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installation_instructions/ but noticed some things: - User adm cannot edit /rc/bin/termrc because it is owne

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> In the sheeva you can access the Jtag through the usb port... but the (newer) guruplug does not. it requires the "guruplug jtag board", for accessing the console and they don't make it obvious when you order the guruplug.

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread David Leimbach
Awesome! Looks like the big one can do 2x GigE and some home automation stuff. Sounds like good fun for Plan 9. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote: > In the sheeva you can access the Jtag through the usb port... > > - > Curiosity sKilled the cat > > G. > > > On May 13, 201

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
In the sheeva you can access the Jtag through the usb port... - Curiosity sKilled the cat G. On May 13, 2010, at 6:48 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: thank you! the two guruplugs i had ordered arrived today. i was disappoint to find that i'll need to order the JTAG board befo

Re: [9fans] Puget Sound 9fans

2010-05-13 Thread David Leimbach
I am interested, and if we plan far enough ahead I might just be able to make it to one :-) Dave On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > are 9fans in the Puget Sound area interested in an informal > meet-and-greet event? after a show of hands, i'll follow

[9fans] Puget Sound 9fans

2010-05-13 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
are 9fans in the Puget Sound area interested in an informal meet-and-greet event? after a show of hands, i'll follow up directly in another email.

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

2010-05-13 Thread EBo
On Wed, 12 May 2010 09:08:23 -0700, Chad Brown wrote: > FWIW, there are two Google offices in the Seattle area; one in Freemont > and one in Kirkland, which is just across the water.Either one likely > has a useful setup for recording presentations and might also be usable for > live streaming

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread David Leimbach
Ok, now I have to google for guruplugs... On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote: > thank you! > > the two guruplugs i had ordered arrived today. i was disappoint to > find that i'll need to order the JTAG board before i can do anything. > i didn't see this re

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
thank you! the two guruplugs i had ordered arrived today. i was disappoint to find that i'll need to order the JTAG board before i can do anything. i didn't see this requirement when i ordered them over a month ago. did anyone else miss this? > The kw port now supports the Guruplug Server Plus,

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread roger peppe
On 13 May 2010 17:06, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu May 13 12:05:13 EDT 2010, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote: >> sorry, misunderstanding, i meant that (64-bit) floating point is >> ok for integer ops if you stick to 32 bit and don't do divisions. >> > > ah!  ok.  i was wondering about that. > > ideally

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread Boo
On 13 май, 06:46, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: > The kw port now supports the Guruplug Server Plus, including both > Ethernet interfaces, and probably the other Guruplugs.  booting(8) now > has the necessary instructions to get started.  They are more diverse > than one might like because every

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread roger peppe
On 13 May 2010 16:54, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > what do you mean by "its output isn't suitable for use as input"? i'm just > curious, have never used it that way. hum... having asked that question i > tried some operations producing very lare numbers and they started to be > printed with backsl

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 13 12:05:13 EDT 2010, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote: > sorry, misunderstanding, i meant that (64-bit) floating point is > ok for integer ops if you stick to 32 bit and don't do divisions. > ah! ok. i was wondering about that. ideally one would have a mp library as go uses for constants.

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 13 May 2010, at 16:16, roger peppe wrote: On 13 May 2010 15:23, erik quanstrom wrote: i typically do programming calculations and floating point just isn't the right way to do that. it's ok if you stick to 32 bit and don't do divisions. personally for off-the-cuff command-line calculati

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread roger peppe
sorry, misunderstanding, i meant that (64-bit) floating point is ok for integer ops if you stick to 32 bit and don't do divisions. On 13 May 2010 16:31, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu May 13 11:28:29 EDT 2010, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote: >> On 13 May 2010 15:23, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > i typica

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
> I normally use acid for interactive use, but for scripts bc is great, > supports hex, > has C like syntax, can do floating point and it has a big precision. doesn't do bit shifting, masking and whatnot. if acid were to grace stderr with its prompt, it would be easy to use in a scripty sort of w

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 13 11:28:29 EDT 2010, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote: > On 13 May 2010 15:23, erik quanstrom wrote: > > i typically do programming calculations and floating point > > just isn't the right way to do that. > > it's ok if you stick to 32 bit and don't do divisions. what!? acid: (1<<36) / 10\Y

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 13 May 2010 16:23, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > echo 1 2 | hoc -e '{while(read(x) != 0)y += x' ^ $nl ^ ' print y, "\n"}' >> >> Maybe it makes a sense to add in hoc(1) expression delimiter like a ';'? > > i don't use hoc very often.  i tend to use acid.  (!) > this is because hoc won't do bit oper

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread roger peppe
On 13 May 2010 15:23, erik quanstrom wrote: > i typically do programming calculations and floating point > just isn't the right way to do that. it's ok if you stick to 32 bit and don't do divisions. personally for off-the-cuff command-line calculations i've been using my own "fc" for years and y

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:23 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > echo 1 2 | hoc -e '{while(read(x) != 0)y += x' ^ $nl ^ ' print y, "\n"}' >> >> Maybe it makes a sense to add in hoc(1) expression delimiter like a ';'? > > i don't use hoc very often.  i tend to use acid.  (!) > this is because hoc won't

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 13 May 2010, at 15:23, erik quanstrom wrote: echo 1 2 | hoc -e '{while(read(x) != 0)y += x' ^ $nl ^ ' print y, "\n"}' Maybe it makes a sense to add in hoc(1) expression delimiter like a ';'? i don't use hoc very often. i tend to use acid. (!) this is because hoc won't do bit operati

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
> > echo 1 2 | hoc -e '{while(read(x) != 0)y += x' ^ $nl ^ ' print y, "\n"}' > > Maybe it makes a sense to add in hoc(1) expression delimiter like a ';'? i don't use hoc very often. i tend to use acid. (!) this is because hoc won't do bit operations and doesn't accept hex. i typically do progr

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread Alexander Sychev
On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:24:47 +0400, erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu May 13 03:51:56 EDT 2010, santu...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'm agree, but with one exception - awk(1) separates a data from a code, hoc(1) doesn't do it. So hoc(1) can be used for plain calculation tasks, not for processing inpu

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu May 13 03:51:56 EDT 2010, santu...@gmail.com wrote: > Yes, I'm agree, but with one exception - awk(1) separates a data from a > code, hoc(1) doesn't do it. So hoc(1) can be used for plain calculation > tasks, not for processing input files with a data. both awk and hoc accept standard inpu

Re: [9fans] arm ports update

2010-05-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
>the flash translation layer, which was developed for nor flash and is >suspect with nand flash it's not "suspect" as such: just not implemented because it's the wrong approach. FTL's design assumes you can rewrite a word, flipping bits off (but never on), to change a physical/logical map efficie

Re: [9fans] configure a plan9 cpu+file+auth server

2010-05-13 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:01 AM, ruel hernandez wrote: > I made a new installation of plan9 at work, now i can use plan9 at > home > and at work. :) After a few days of using the system and reading some > papers from the internet, i decided to turn it into a plan9 cpu+file > +auth server. > So, i

Re: [9fans] configure a plan9 cpu+file+auth server

2010-05-13 Thread Steve Simon
Is this an authentication problem? are you running authentication? These might give you a hint as to why you don't have permission: % ls -ld /cfg % echo $user % grep $user /adm/users -Steve

[9fans] configure a plan9 cpu+file+auth server

2010-05-13 Thread ruel hernandez
I made a new installation of plan9 at work, now i can use plan9 at home and at work. :) After a few days of using the system and reading some papers from the internet, i decided to turn it into a plan9 cpu+file +auth server. So, i started to followed the wiki; % cd /cfg; mkdir $sysname; dircp exam

Re: [9fans] hoc output format

2010-05-13 Thread Alexander Sychev
Yes, I'm agree, but with one exception - awk(1) separates a data from a code, hoc(1) doesn't do it. So hoc(1) can be used for plain calculation tasks, not for processing input files with a data. On Wed, 12 May 2010 22:06:20 +0400, Akshat Kumar wrote: I've found that awk(1) is more useful (