Re: [9fans] beagleboard

2010-10-13 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:43 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: /sys/src/9/beagle cpu% ls -l /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9 d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda sys 0 Mar 23 2008 /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/9/alphapc d-rwxrwxr-x M 21173 glenda bitsy 0 Mar 23 2008

Re: [9fans] beagleboard

2010-10-13 Thread ron minnich
Sorry, /sys/src/9/omap/beagle ron

Re: [9fans] beagleboard

2010-10-13 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Find them ! Thx ! On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:41 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, /sys/src/9/omap/beagle ron -- С наилучшими пожеланиями Жилкин Сергей With best regards Zhilkin Sergey

[9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Thorben Krueger
I configured my mobile phone to share all it's connectivity (gprs, wifi) via usb, i.e., act as a usb router (including a dhcp server). When I attach it to a linux machine, dmesg says: usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 14 cdc_acm 2-2:1.6: This device cannot do calls on

Re: [9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
It seems usbd is not getting the descriptors it needs. You may try running usbd -dd to see which requests have problems. We could try to see how to proceed then, depending on what's going on. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Thorben Krueger thkru...@googlemail.com wrote: I configured my mobile

Re: [9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Thorben Krueger
Ok, when I reboot (I don't know how to reset usdb) and run usb/usbd -dd I get: ... usb/usbd: /dev/usb/ep5.0 starting usb/usbd: opendev 0x60b90 /dev/usb/ep5.0 usb/usbd: /dev/usb/ep5.0: no port information usb/usbd: /dev/usb/ep5.0: ports 2 maxpkt 64 What now? On 13 October 2010 15:31, Francisco J

Re: [9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
kill usbd, yes, it's not supported. I mean, if you kill it and it fails, the man page says that you are not supposed to do that. But do it anyway :) Then, usb/usbd -dd and see what happens. BTW I assume that you are not using a usb kbd/mouse to execute such commands. If you are, then we can set

Re: [9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Thorben Krueger
wow, this produces an incredible amount of text... typing it is not an option... let me see if I can figure something out On 13 October 2010 15:57, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: kill usbd, yes, it's not supported. I mean, if you kill it and it fails, the man page says that you

Re: [9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Thorben Krueger
See attached debug log. (Transfered via USB pendrive from the plan9 machine, so at least that part seems to work) On 13 October 2010 16:04, Thorben Krueger thkru...@googlemail.com wrote: wow, this produces an incredible amount of text... typing it is not an option... let me see if I can figure

Re: [9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Thorben Krueger
Addendum: My phone also exposes some block devices via usb, although they only become mountable when I flip a software switch in the phone (which I didn't). Maybe that accounts for some of the output On 13 October 2010 16:33, Thorben Krueger thkru...@googlemail.com wrote: See attached debug

[9fans] wiki down?

2010-10-13 Thread David Leimbach
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki I get Object not found

Re: [9fans] USB ethernet driver issue

2010-10-13 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Let's proceed off list, to save traffic.

Re: [9fans] wiki down?

2010-10-13 Thread Jacob Todd
Iirc eric made something to report these things to the correct people. There's a group called 9nag on google groups that it uses.

[9fans] a side effect of dontkill listen

2010-10-13 Thread Yaroslav
Cpurc on sources disables notes for a few processes including listen(8) – to save them from being killed when system runs out of memory. This, however, has a side effect: spawned services like sshserve inherit the bits from listen, thus missing notes about rc exits and waiting forever, causing the

Re: [9fans] wiki down?

2010-10-13 Thread David Leimbach
Ah... alright. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Iirc eric made something to report these things to the correct people. There's a group called 9nag on google groups that it uses.

[9fans] proceedings

2010-10-13 Thread erik quanstrom
raw proceedings posted www.9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf

Re: [9fans] proceedings

2010-10-13 Thread hugo rivera
http://9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf: The requested URL /iwp95e.pdf was not found on this server. 2010/10/13 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: raw proceedings posted www.9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf -- Hugo

Re: [9fans] proceedings

2010-10-13 Thread Denis Volk
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 01:14:00PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: raw proceedings posted www.9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf typo? ~$ wget www.9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf --2010-10-13 19:33:46-- http://www.9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf Resolving www.9fans.net... 68.236.190.109 Connecting to

Re: [9fans] proceedings

2010-10-13 Thread Ori Bernstein
Correct URL seems to be: http://iwp9.org/iwp95e.pdf On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:14:00 -0400, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: raw proceedings posted www.9fans.net/iwp95e.pdf -- Ori Bernstein

[9fans] cnk emulation

2010-10-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
Ron's changes emulate the following linux/cnk calls: [4] {write, sys_write, 3, {.i = -1}}, [5] {cnkopen, sysopen, 2, {.i = -1}}, [24]{getuid, cnkgeteuid, 0, {.i = -1}}, [45]{cnkbrk, cnkbrk, 1, {.i = -1}}, [47]

[9fans] πp

2010-10-13 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
For folks interested in more info on the πp portion of Noah's Osprey talk, Anant's thesis is available online: http://proness.kix.in/misc/πp-v2.pdf -eric

Re: [9fans] πp

2010-10-13 Thread David Leimbach
I guess I do not understand how 9p doesn't support pipelining. All requests are tagged and can be dealt with between client and server in any order right? On Wednesday, October 13, 2010, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: For folks interested in more info on the πp portion of Noah's

[9fans] some group photos

2010-10-13 Thread John Floren
They came out kind of fuzzy, I think it's because of the bright light from outside behind us. http://jfloren.net/IWP9group1.jpg http://jfloren.net/IWP9group2.jpg

Re: [9fans] πp

2010-10-13 Thread roger peppe
2010/10/13 David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com: I guess I do not understand how 9p doesn't support pipelining.   All requests are tagged and can be dealt with between client and server in any order right? two issues (at least): 1) concurrently sent requests can be reordered (they're serviced in

Re: [9fans] some group photos

2010-10-13 Thread Brantley Coile
thanks for the snap shots. what a great venue. brantley On Oct 13, 2010, at 6:22 PM, John Floren wrote: They came out kind of fuzzy, I think it's because of the bright light from outside behind us. http://jfloren.net/IWP9group1.jpg http://jfloren.net/IWP9group2.jpg

[9fans] Eris Discordia?

2010-10-13 Thread Dorian Basaraba
FYI,   Skip thinks the video on this link is Eris Discordia based on certain patterns.     http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/14218 

Re: [9fans] beagleboard

2010-10-13 Thread geoff
As you'll see from my talk or paper, the beagleboard doesn't work yet because it doesn't have real ethernet and usb isn't working on the omap35 yet, so even the kludge of ethernet over usb won't work.

Re: [9fans] beagleboard

2010-10-13 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi all, thanks for the response. i also went through geoff's paper. so, in summary, it looks like while beagleboard port is close to be ready, it is not going to be too attractive to run plan9 (from price/speed/device-support point). am i right? dharani On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:59 PM,

[9fans] inferno status/roadmap?

2010-10-13 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi, if i am right, charles was planning to give a session on inferno roadmap or something in the 5th plan9 workshop. did it happen? sorry if i am wrong. thanks dharani

Re: [9fans] πp

2010-10-13 Thread David Leimbach
2010/10/13 roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com 2010/10/13 David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com: I guess I do not understand how 9p doesn't support pipelining. All requests are tagged and can be dealt with between client and server in any order right? two issues (at least): 1) concurrently

Re: [9fans] Eris Discordia?

2010-10-13 Thread hiro
Oh please, don't make me think about the Dorian-Gray-Syndrom. All these patterns are haunting me lately...

Re: [9fans] πp

2010-10-13 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
2) you can't pipeline requests if the result of one request depends on the result of a previous. for instance: walk to file, open it, read it, close it. if the first operation fails, then subsequent operations will be invalid. Given careful allocation of FIDs by a client, that can be dealt

[9fans] amd64 port

2010-10-13 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi all, i am just posting a question that has been in my mind for a while. to me, it looks like 64-bit computing has caught up very well. even smaller processors like atom supports 64-bit instruction set. on the contrary, while plan9 supported 32-bit processors ahead of other OSes, it is yet to

Re: [9fans] amd64 port

2010-10-13 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
ppc64 and amd64 support exists. the ppc64 port is partial and is available publically. It is my understanding that the amd64 is partial and available to those who ask. Things which are missing are devices and other bits to make it actually useful, but the core changes for 64-bit support are in

Re: [9fans] inferno status/roadmap?

2010-10-13 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
you were wrong. but perhaps he'll answer anyways. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan vdhar...@gmail.com wrote: hi, if i am right, charles was planning to give a session on inferno roadmap or something in the 5th plan9 workshop. did it happen? sorry if i am wrong.

Re: [9fans] amd64 port

2010-10-13 Thread John Floren
I've consumed the Kool-Aid and now believe that ARM is the proper future for Plan 9. With Gumstix, you can get USB, DVI, audio, storage, ethernet, wifi, 3G, all in one tiny little box, for under $200, and with increasingly improving Plan 9 support (certainly better than amd64, which I used--it was

Re: [9fans] inferno status/roadmap?

2010-10-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
if i am right, charles was planning to give a session on inferno roadmap or something in the 5th plan9 workshop. did it happen? i was asked to do it some time ago, but it wasn't in the schedule, and i didn't notice that until too late.

Re: [9fans] some group photos

2010-10-13 Thread Joseph Stewart
Wish I was there guys! Have a great time. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Brantley Coile brant...@coraid.com wrote: thanks for the snap shots.  what a great venue. brantley On Oct 13, 2010, at 6:22 PM, John Floren wrote: They came out kind of fuzzy, I think it's because of the bright light

Re: [9fans] some group photos

2010-10-13 Thread ron minnich
It was a great workshop. More than once I heard someone mention that it was the best IWP9 they'd attended. What was interesting was that I heard the exact same sentiment last year ... guess we get better by the year. And, I got to let the smoke out of an ethernet switch WITHOUT setting off any

Re: [9fans] some group photos

2010-10-13 Thread Joseph Stewart
Great! I'll need to start the whining, um I mean budget request with my boss early to avoid the last minute rush. -joe On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:18 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: It was a great workshop. More than once I heard someone mention that it was the best IWP9 they'd

[9fans] DYNDNS - re-invent the wheel?

2010-10-13 Thread Lucio De Re
I don't remember anybody mentioning it, is there a Plan 9 tool to submit a dynamic DNS request to a DNS server like BIND? I use the feature in a very limited fashion, but I don't want to re-invent something that has already been done. ++L

Re: [9fans] amd64 port

2010-10-13 Thread David Leimbach
Plan 9'on ARM makes a lot of sense to me. I still think x86 is worthwhile though. On Wednesday, October 13, 2010, John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: I've consumed the Kool-Aid and now believe that ARM is the proper future for Plan 9. With Gumstix, you can get USB, DVI, audio, storage,

Re: [9fans] πp

2010-10-13 Thread blstuart
I guess I'm trying to imagine how specifically you could pipeline, not the general ways in which pipelining will fail with 9P. Well as it turns out, I got inspired by the discussions of streaming and implemented one approach in Inferno on the plane on the way back home. Unfortunately, my

Re: [9fans] DYNDNS - re-invent the wheel?

2010-10-13 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
I don't remember anybody mentioning it, is there a Plan 9 tool to submit a dynamic DNS request to a DNS server like BIND? I used to have P9 ssh to the BIND host and run the magic command that let you update the ddns database (nsupdate?).