Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread dexen deVries
On Sunday 01 of May 2011 00:45:48 Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Perhaps there's a Plan 9 way to approach the problem which might involve a less-huge amount of work. There is nothing Plan 9 about this. When a piece of code gets so large as to be impossible to understand, it's time to throw it

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread blstuart
Starting Goal: a modern, standards compliant web engine library for Plan 9 As others have pointed out that's pretty hard to define, but in the current web world, you can cover a surprisingly large fraction of sites if you have good JavaScript and CSS support. Running Java in the browser isn't

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
There's one other possibility that I've thought about. Inferno's browser charon is more capable than it might appear. It has some degree of JavaScript support. The main thing I've noticed when trying to use it for some day-to-day browsing is that it lacks CSS and could use some work on

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread errno
On Sunday, May 01, 2011 04:56:40 PM blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: Starting Goal: a modern, standards compliant web engine library for Plan 9 As others have pointed out that's pretty hard to define, Agreed, I did try to make an attempt at a modicum of a definition to work from, but it

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
I suspect netsurf might actually be better to work from than charon, if only because netsurf is already written c rather than limbo, and has already been ported to many platforms. unless i've completely misunderstood, brian is suggesting to run charon in plan 9-hosted inferno. - erik

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread errno
On Sunday, May 01, 2011 06:44:42 PM erik quanstrom wrote: I suspect netsurf might actually be better to work from than charon, if only because netsurf is already written c rather than limbo, and has already been ported to many platforms. unless i've completely misunderstood, brian is

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
I'll risk venturing an opinion on that approach: Running a plan 9 hosted inferno is essentially another take on the vnc or linuxemu workarounds. It won't provide the same freedoms and benefits of a native library/engine/framework. what freedoms are those? - erik

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread errno
On Sunday, May 01, 2011 07:38:43 PM erik quanstrom wrote: I'll risk venturing an opinion on that approach: Running a plan 9 hosted inferno is essentially another take on the vnc or linuxemu workarounds. It won't provide the same freedoms and benefits of a native

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread erik quanstrom
The freedom _from_ an extra, extraneous, alien environment. [1] but it's a web browser. it's already an alien environment. :-) The freedom _for_ building a variety of native front-ends. The freedom _for_ integrating with existing native libraries. what's the advantage here? i don't

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:11 PM, errno er...@cox.net wrote: etc. Just wondering if you have looked at webfs. ron

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

2011-05-01 Thread Steve Simon
Just to add some more confusion to the mix, there was a port of an early charon release from limbo to c, called 'i' - the single letter. This worked to the point of working like a buggy abaco (perhaps I am unfair but that is what it feels like), Its on sources (in contrib/extra I think). I'am