Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:05:23PM +, Mauricio CA wrote: I found this text in TeX by Topic[1] that seems to support Quanstrom's idea. It describes how TeX reads input, and says it's done one line at a time (where it follows what the system defines as lines) and then for each line it

Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread erik quanstrom
So for now, TeX is kept 8 bits. I make no assumption for the encoding (and user has to feed 8 bits encoding to TeX; ASCII users have nothing to change; others, if they want to use directly another 8 bits encoding (ex.: directly accented letters latin1 code) have to tcs(1) the file first. i

Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 08:19:40AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: So for now, TeX is kept 8 bits. I make no assumption for the encoding (and user has to feed 8 bits encoding to TeX; ASCII users have nothing to change; others, if they want to use directly another 8 bits encoding (ex.:

Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sat Jun 25 11:01:38 EDT 2011, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 08:19:40AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: So for now, TeX is kept 8 bits. I make no assumption for the encoding (and user has to feed 8 bits encoding to TeX; ASCII users have nothing to change; others, if

[9fans] the awesomeness of year 2011

2011-06-25 Thread dexen deVries
(...) I never use more than 800Mb of RAM. I am running Linux, a browser and a terminal. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2692529 -- dexen deVries ``One can't proceed from the informal to the formal by formal means.''

Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:11:50AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: On Sat Jun 25 11:01:38 EDT 2011, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: I mean the .tex file. The font files as seen by TeX are only the metrics tfm, and they are binaries. so are you planning on hiding this conversion within the tex

Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread Mauricio CA
Since TeX is 8 bits, the tex file must have characters encoded in 8 bits, with the not control positions of the first half being, after perhaps mapping defined at compile time (can be remapped at user level but with apparently strange macro commands), conforming to ASCII--- used as litterals

Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread tlaronde
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 04:34:17PM +, Mauricio CA wrote: Since TeX is 8 bits, the tex file must have characters encoded in 8 bits, with the not control positions of the first half being, after perhaps mapping defined at compile time (can be remapped at user level but with apparently

Re: [9fans] the awesomeness of year 2011

2011-06-25 Thread Harri Haataja
On 25 June 2011 19:25, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: (...) I never use more than 800Mb of RAM. I am running Linux, a browser and a terminal. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2692529 More generally, I'm running a browser, it only uses 50-150% of the RAM I have. -- I appear

Re: [9fans] [RFC] fonts and unicode/utf [TeX]

2011-06-25 Thread Michael Kerpan
Modern TeX implementations like XeTeX and LuaTeX handle UTF-8 natively and also bring all sorts of benefits like OpenType support (automagic ligatures, real small caps, selectable lining or old-style figures and more) and the ability to define fonts from the system font pool rather than using

Re: [9fans] the awesomeness of year 2011

2011-06-25 Thread hiro
Pathetic, other people are running linux in their browser and he's still using terminals? It's fucking 2011!

Re: [9fans] the awesomeness of year 2011

2011-06-25 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 06/25/11 12:51, hiro wrote: Pathetic, other people are running linux in their browser and he's still using terminals? It's fucking 2011! I dunno. I ran sam in my dmd630 terminal. Oh, that was fucking 1988 :-)

[9fans] SIP

2011-06-25 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Anyone working on or have a simple SIP router/proxy for Plan9? As of today I will no longer waste days of my life dealing with the abomination that is Asterisk. --lyndon

[9fans] Acme with accessibility

2011-06-25 Thread Mauricio CA
Hi, all, I would like to ask you for tips: suppose I want to write something like acme editor, but aiming at being used by people with severe disabilities like, say, Stephen Hawking. Such kind of disabilities mean input will come from a few button pressing signals, used to enter input using some

Re: [9fans] SIP

2011-06-25 Thread Lucio De Re
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 02:10:23PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Anyone working on or have a simple SIP router/proxy for Plan9? As of today I will no longer waste days of my life dealing with the abomination that is Asterisk. I'd love to hear of such a success story. Me, I'd have used

Re: [9fans] Acme with accessibility

2011-06-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
You might take a look at Dasher: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ ...and perhaps their sister project opengazer. Both have plenty of resources (code, papers) on design and implementation, IIRC. And they're pretty cool. --dho 2011/6/25 Mauricio CA mauricio.antu...@gmail.com: Hi, all,