Re: [9fans] Fedex command

2012-05-31 Thread steve
I did investigate writing a plan9client for Jira earlier this year. it exposes its apis as soap, xmlrpc and rest so i could use any. from the little i have read rest looks preferable though i speak from a position of little knowledge here. i hoped to write a genetic REST 9p file server that would

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 02:55:57PM -0400, Burton Samograd wrote: > > so edit/win, edit/edit, edit/dir might all be little programs that do part > > of what acme currently does. > > Sounds a bit like emacs :) emacs plan9 manpage is one of my preferred. I do like the laconic: BUGS Yes. and I us

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 02:00:35PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > - my wife proves you wrong. (don't worry. you're not alone.) nobody > guesses that english is not her native tongue. But she lives in this U.S. context. I'm speaking about "off the ground" speakers. > > - the rules are in pr

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread Burton Samograd
> so edit/win, edit/edit, edit/dir might all be little programs that do part of > what acme currently does. Sounds a bit like emacs :) -- Burton Samograd This e-mail, including accompanying communications and attachments, is strictly confidential and only for the intended recipient. Any retent

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread erik quanstrom
> Some people would love warp-to-location for Undo/Redo, some I'm sure > would hate it. Some people can't stand that up/down arrow keys scroll > the page rather than move the cursor (I'm not one). Acme might benefit > from a config file in $home/lib/acme.conf or something. Yeah yeah, [...] i think

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Yes. Also, if anyone wants a different behavior, it´s easy to change to source so it fits your preferences. On May 31, 2012, at 8:05 PM, steve wrote: > Aww, leave sam alone, he served us well for (so) many > years, zerox is part of his baroque charm. > > if where to change any text, which i wo

Re: [9fans] Fedex command

2012-05-31 Thread Anthony Sorace
> The published APIs didn't seem to lend themselves to a > simple screen-scrape. Well, they're mostly XML/SOAP, which is a pain, but they're not too rough as such things go. Certainly they change a lot less than the web pages do, so even if you're just using exactly the same techniques on what's r

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread John Floren
Some people would love warp-to-location for Undo/Redo, some I'm sure would hate it. Some people can't stand that up/down arrow keys scroll the page rather than move the cursor (I'm not one). Acme might benefit from a config file in $home/lib/acme.conf or something. Yeah yeah, Plan 9 doesn't use a l

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread steve
Aww, leave sam alone, he served us well for (so) many years, zerox is part of his baroque charm. if where to change any text, which i wouldn't, it would be snarf, which always draws comments from the uninitiated. the one real change that i think would be worthwhile would be a warp-to-location on

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread erik quanstrom
> But to speak or to write a meaningful english, is far more difficult. > And I would say that it is easier to start english than to achieve a > correct level in english and I doubt that a non native english speaker > can achieve it---because there are no written rules but a context that > only a n

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 07:39 -0700, David Leimbach wrote: > I vote we call it "Kevin" as a result. Sell the naming rights!

Re: [9fans] Fedex command

2012-05-31 Thread V. M. (Mark) Haas
RL: <http://mail.9fans.net/private/9fans/attachments/20120531/9c7ed152/attachment-0001.pgp>

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread Stephen Wiley
On May 31, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > It is better to ask forgiveness than permission - > Unless it's from a lawyer! :D

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 31 May 2012 10:39, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Charles Forsyth > wrote: >> >> The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic >> sense. > > > But I believe Xerox lost that ability, as their name became a verb in the > common vernacular

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:50 AM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > Xerox seems to have missed losing their trademark [1]. There's a > lawsuit filed about Google's trademarked name in arizona [2]. A list > of genericized trademarks is available at [3]. > > Ahh, litigation... > > > Ah well, I never bought

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread andrey mirtchovski
Xerox seems to have missed losing their trademark [1]. There's a lawsuit filed about Google's trademarked name in arizona [2]. A list of genericized trademarks is available at [3]. Ahh, litigation... 1: http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c6a7953ef0134851907f7970c-popup 2: http://www.digita

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread David Leimbach
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > The curious Z spelling was to avoid using a trademarked word in a generic > sense. But I believe Xerox lost that ability, as their name became a verb in the common vernacular. At least I believe I heard that in a marketing class I had in

Re: [9fans] Fedex command

2012-05-31 Thread Anthony Sorace
The fedex command (like ups and usps) work by scraping the HTML on the public web site. That changes fairly often, and fedex & co need updates each time. It's not terribly difficult, but it's tedious and frequent. I end up tweaking these about every other time I want to track a package. Most (all

[9fans] Fedex command

2012-05-31 Thread V. M. (Mark) Haas
Has anyone investigated or used this command recently? I'm not "smart" enough to figure out quite how it is failing (or how it succeeded).Regards,-- Mark

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread dexen deVries
On Thursday 31 of May 2012 06:30:28 Jason Catena wrote: > There is a computer science concept analogous to what Zerox does. "Pass > argument by reference" also provides a look-in to a point in memory without > copying it. So if you want to name it something else, try changing it to > CpRef. +1 al

[9fans] Heresy alert

2012-05-31 Thread Jason Catena
There is a computer science concept analogous to what Zerox does. "Pass argument by reference" also provides a look-in to a point in memory without copying it. So if you want to name it something else, try changing it to CpRef.

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread Anthony Sorace
On May 31, 2012, at 0:10, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > This "proper" English is not the language of the English people... "The English have no respect for their language, and will not teach their children to speak it. They spell it so abominably that no man can teach himself what it sounds like.

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox -> Clone

2012-05-31 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 05:10:01AM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > > This "proper" English is not the language of the English > people, and I find it remarkable that there is so much so-called > improperness in common between Britain and the US after 200 years of > separation and 100 years of c